Thank you.
On 12 August 2014 08:44, spudboy100 via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote: > Kewl Mike. > Writer of fantasy and scfi, Lin Carter. many years ago, toyed with words > and came up with the phrase "plenum mechanics," as a cover for quantum > mechanics. You phrase Plenitude, sort of reminded me of this. Whether there > is an Everett MWI of an Infinite Universe, it almost doesn't matter because > whether zillions of Hubble Volumes, or one big place, it ends up all the > same, sort of. You can buy a six pack or a pony keg, but its all beer/ale > inside, is my reasoning. > > There was a paper published at ARXIV back in December or January, by a > physicist named Paul Wesson, who specializes in general relativity and > extra physical dimensions. Wesson postulated that like Kaluza and Klein, > before him, there's a working 5th dimension. Wesson suggests that the > GreatSilence of Fermi, is because people discover this dimension and use it > to post IM's faster than light. This is akin to Verner Vinge's 'A Fire Upon > the Deep,' novel. The 'people' are other civilizations, in case I didn't > make this clear? I think Vinge, minus the interaction of his characters, > could have gotten away with dealing with spammers, trolling, and gossip, on > a cosmic scale. I'd like to see someone tackle this, as a good read. > Interested ;-) Good luck with your writing Liz and Mike. > > Mitch > > Spudboy - and Liz: > thanks for the approval - I wouldn't have resorted to Everett's MWI even > in 1990 (found it restrictive to our lately human conclusions) nor to an > 'infinite' universe (finiteless world is better in which we have > unrestricted (number and qualia) universes, So I proposed (my version): a > "Plenitude" of everything of which the groundrule-total symmetry (more than > we can imagine) HAS TO BE violated by closing together of "SIMILAR" items > (I would have written: components) from movement to movement changes (time > is not part of the Plenitude). These 'complexities' of the violations ARE > the universes in no restriction of topical compositions. They arise and > dissipate - not as looked from the inside: ours e.g. passes long-long eras > of TIME in far-far areas of SPACE - as *we* think of it and look at from > the INSIDE. . > Such cosmologic agnosticism arose after the manuscript was already out. > I do not intend to download something I wrote before developing ideas I > hold now. I looked into 'modernizing' it to my developing agnosticism, but > did not find the energy - too much effort needed. And: my present views are > only that: PRESENT views, not holding till tomorrow. > Thanks > John M > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Mikes <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Aug 11, 2014 4:15 pm > Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and > alternative energy lovers > > Spudboy - and Liz: > thanks for the approval - I wouldn't have resorted to Everett's MWI even > in 1990 (found it restrictive to our lately human conclusions) nor to an > 'infinite' universe (finiteless world is better in which we have > unrestricted (number and qualia) universes, So I proposed (my version): a > "Plenitude" of everything of which the groundrule-total symmetry (more than > we can imagine) HAS TO BE violated by closing together of "SIMILAR" items > (I would have written: components) from movement to movement changes (time > is not part of the Plenitude). These 'complexities' of the violations ARE > the universes in no restriction of topical compositions. They arise and > dissipate - not as looked from the inside: ours e.g. passes long-long eras > of TIME in far-far areas of SPACE - as *we* think of it and look at from > the INSIDE. . > Such cosmologic agnosticism arose after the manuscript was already out. > I do not intend to download something I wrote before developing ideas I > hold now. I looked into 'modernizing' it to my developing agnosticism, but > did not find the energy - too much effort needed. And: my present views are > only that: PRESENT views, not holding till tomorrow. > Thanks > John M > > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Let me know when its ready to download? >> >> Oh yes indeed. That is the subject of my first novel, currently in the >> process of editing, good post apocalyptic fun set after those people have >> more or less achieved their aim. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LizR <[email protected]> >> To: everything-list <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, Aug 10, 2014 2:05 am >> Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and >> alternative energy lovers >> >> On 10 August 2014 02:15, spudboy100 via Everything List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You don't need to alter your politics, simply be aware, that there >>> appear to be rich people who seek a die-off. >> >> >> Oh yes indeed. That is the subject of my first novel, currently in the >> process of editing, good post apocalyptic fun set after those people have >> more or less achieved their aim. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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