Thank you.

On 12 August 2014 08:44, spudboy100 via Everything List <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Kewl Mike.
> Writer of fantasy and scfi, Lin Carter. many years ago, toyed with words
> and came up with the phrase "plenum mechanics," as a cover for quantum
> mechanics. You phrase Plenitude, sort of reminded me of this. Whether there
> is an Everett MWI of an Infinite Universe, it almost doesn't matter because
> whether zillions of Hubble Volumes, or one big place, it ends up all the
> same, sort of. You can buy a six pack or a pony keg, but its all beer/ale
> inside, is my reasoning.
>
> There was a paper published at ARXIV back in December or January, by a
> physicist named Paul Wesson, who specializes in general relativity and
> extra physical dimensions. Wesson postulated that like Kaluza and Klein,
> before him, there's a working 5th dimension. Wesson suggests that the
> GreatSilence of Fermi, is because people discover this dimension and use it
> to post IM's faster than light. This is akin to Verner Vinge's 'A Fire Upon
> the Deep,' novel. The 'people' are other civilizations, in case I didn't
> make this clear? I think Vinge, minus the interaction of his characters,
> could have gotten away with dealing with spammers, trolling, and gossip, on
> a cosmic scale. I'd like to see someone tackle this, as a good read.
> Interested ;-)  Good luck with your writing Liz and Mike.
>
> Mitch
>
> Spudboy - and Liz:
> thanks for the approval - I wouldn't have resorted to Everett's MWI even
> in 1990 (found it restrictive to our lately human conclusions) nor to an
> 'infinite' universe (finiteless world is better in which we have
> unrestricted (number and qualia) universes, So I proposed (my version): a
> "Plenitude" of everything of which the groundrule-total symmetry (more than
> we can imagine) HAS TO BE violated by closing together of "SIMILAR" items
> (I would have written: components) from movement to movement changes (time
> is not part of the Plenitude). These 'complexities' of the violations ARE
> the universes in no restriction of topical compositions. They arise and
> dissipate - not as looked from the inside: ours e.g. passes long-long eras
> of TIME in far-far areas of SPACE - as *we* think of it and look at from
> the INSIDE. .
> Such cosmologic agnosticism arose after the manuscript was already out.
> I do not intend to download something I wrote before developing ideas I
> hold now. I looked into 'modernizing' it to my developing agnosticism, but
> did not find the energy - too much effort needed. And: my present views are
> only that: PRESENT views, not holding till tomorrow.
> Thanks
> John M
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Mikes <[email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Aug 11, 2014 4:15 pm
> Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and
> alternative energy lovers
>
>  Spudboy - and Liz:
> thanks for the approval - I wouldn't have resorted to Everett's MWI even
> in 1990 (found it restrictive to our lately human conclusions) nor to an
> 'infinite' universe (finiteless world is better in which we have
> unrestricted (number and qualia) universes, So I proposed (my version): a
> "Plenitude" of everything of which the groundrule-total symmetry (more than
> we can imagine) HAS TO BE violated by closing together of "SIMILAR" items
> (I would have written: components) from movement to movement changes (time
> is not part of the Plenitude). These 'complexities' of the violations ARE
> the universes in no restriction of topical compositions. They arise and
> dissipate - not as looked from the inside: ours e.g. passes long-long eras
> of TIME in far-far areas of SPACE - as *we* think of it and look at from
> the INSIDE. .
> Such cosmologic agnosticism arose after the manuscript was already out.
> I do not intend to download something I wrote before developing ideas I
> hold now. I looked into 'modernizing' it to my developing agnosticism, but
> did not find the energy - too much effort needed. And: my present views are
> only that: PRESENT views, not holding till tomorrow.
> Thanks
> John M
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Let me know when its ready to download?
>>
>> Oh yes indeed. That is the subject of my first novel, currently in the
>> process of editing, good post apocalyptic fun set after those people have
>> more or less achieved their aim.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>> From: LizR <[email protected]>
>> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sun, Aug 10, 2014 2:05 am
>> Subject: Re: The game explained to soft ecologist, ecoalarmist and
>> alternative energy lovers
>>
>>   On 10 August 2014 02:15, spudboy100 via Everything List <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You don't need to alter your politics, simply be aware, that there
>>> appear to be rich people who seek a die-off.
>>
>>
>>  Oh yes indeed. That is the subject of my first novel, currently in the
>> process of editing, good post apocalyptic fun set after those people have
>> more or less achieved their aim.
>>
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