On 8/22/2014 11:42 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:16:27AM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
If your altered state of consciousness has no self-awareness, is it
still "consciousness"? And there's self-consciousness, i.e. being
aware you are thinking. So it's not 'fading' qualia, it different
categories of consciousness. I'd say my dog has self-awareness,
e.g. he knows his name. But I'm not so sure he is self-conscious.
The koi in my pond are aware, but I doubt they are self-aware.
Just out of curiosity, where do you think my operational definition of
consciousness being a member of the reference class of anthropic reasoning fits
into your quadripartite classification?
Is being a dog a valid state for the anthropic reference class? Being
a koi? All I know is that most animals are not valid members of the
reference class. Hence my "ants are not conscious" paper.
ISTM that anyone applying the anthropic principle gets to choose any reference class they
are member of. I read your paper and you conclude ants can't be conscious because then,
as a member of the conscious beings, I'd most likely be and ant - but I'm not. But why
doesn't it work as well for other properties? Ants aren't DNA based because if they were,
I, as a DNA based being, would most likely be an ant - but I'm not an ant.
Brent
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