We have to have a real success to get people emotionally geared to AI threat 
remediation. It's not SKYNET that threatens us, its ourselves. Plus, the ruling 
elites, who's politics are now Progressive, are not motivated to deal such a 
problem. We don't have international unrest protesting any technical issue. 
Last month, as predicted, it was the israel-Gaza war, next month, (maybe) the 
Ukraine war (no protests here!). To wit, rulers or ruled, we do not have a mind 
set for problem resolution, worldwide. It was ever thus, but now it is hurting 
our species, or starting to. 


This is an inherent problem for many thinkers not to wish to involve politics 
in technical discussions, which I sympathize with. However, because of human 
nature, its difficult to separate the two. This is not Planet Vulcan and humans 
are not always rational actors. Radar, the Jet engine, the rocket, satellites, 
nuclear power, all came from war-a very emotional process indeed!



-----Original Message-----
From: Pierz <pier...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 2, 2014 7:22 am
Subject: Re: AI Dooms Us


I have to say I find the whole thing amusing. Tegmark even suggested we should 
be spending one percent of GDP trying to research this terrible threat to 
humanity and wondered why we weren't doing it. Why not? Because, unlike global 
warming and nuclear weapons, there is absolutely no sign of the threat 
materializing. It's an absolutely theoretical risk based on a wild 
extrapolation. To me the whole idea of researching defences against a future 
robot attack is like building weapons to defend ourselves against aliens. So 
far, the major threat from computers is their stupidity, not their 
super-intelligence. It's the risk that they will blindly carry out some 
mechanical instruction (think of semi-autonomous military drones) without any 
human judgement. Some of you may know the story of the Russian commander who 
prevented World War III by overriding protocol when his systems told him the 
USSR was under missile attack. The computer systems f%^*ed up, he used his 
judgement and saved the world. The risk of computers will always be their 
mindless rigidity, not their turning into HAL 9000. Someone on the thread said 
something about Google face recognition software exhibiting behaviour its 
programmers didn't understand and they hadn't told it to do. Yeah. My programs 
do that all the time. It's called a bug. When software reaches a certain level 
of complexity, you simply lose track of what it's doing. Singularity, 
shmigularity.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:05:04 AM UTC+10, Brent wrote:
          
    
Bostrom says, "If humanity had been      sane and had our act together 
globally, the sensible course of      action would be to postpone development 
of superintelligence until      we figured out how to do so safely. And then 
maybe wait another      generation or two just to make sure that we hadn't 
overlooked some      flaw in our reasoning. And then do it -- and reap immense 
benefit.      Unfortunately, we do not have the ability to pause."
      
      But maybe he's forgotten the Dark Ages.  I think ISIS is working      
hard to produce a pause. Repeating, the fault lies not in AI, but in ourselves, 
Horatio. 
      
      Brent
      
      On 8/25/2014 10:27 AM 
    
      
Artificial            Intelligence May Doom The Human Race Within A Century,    
        Oxford Professor 
      

      
      
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/artificial-intelligence-oxford_n_5689858.html?ir=Science
      
    
    
  


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