On 9/2/2014 9:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 25 Aug 2014, at 21:04, meekerdb wrote:

Bostrom says, "If humanity had been sane and had our act together globally, the sensible course of action would be to postpone development of superintelligence until we figured out how to do so safely. And then maybe wait another generation or two just to make sure that we hadn't overlooked some flaw in our reasoning. And then do it -- and reap immense benefit. Unfortunately, we do not have the ability to pause."

But maybe he's forgotten the Dark Ages.  I think ISIS is working hard to 
produce a pause.

I agree. ISIS, Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, etc.

It is not Islam, in my current opinion, but I read the Hamas chart, and, well, I have only read one half of the Quran for now, and it is hard to interpret (I do think the hamas is inconsistent with the surrah of the poets and the surrah of the table), but I read entirely "mein kampf", and the chart of the hamas extends mein kampf, and indeed those guys works hard and patiently to produce a pause, may be one more millenium of obscurity.

Religion are like drug, the more you repress them, the more they get solid. The christian era is already a consequence of the attempt by the Romans to eradicate christianity from the empire, we know the result.

I don't think that's right. The Romans were quite tolerant of varied religions. It wasn't Roman repression that caused the Christians to sack the Museum and murder Hypatia in Alexandria. It was Christian intolerance and a drive to stamp out every vestige of the Greek and Roman paganism - including their science and art. Christian theologians emphasized faith; curiosity and reason led to sin. You see the same fanaticism in the Taliban and now ISIS.

We can't win a war against Islam, but we still can win a war against nazism (program of eliminating categories of people).


We should better not confuse the pseudo-muslim nazis from the muslims.

It would be easier to tell them apart if the muslims would unite against the pseudo-muslims. Since they allegedly greatly out number them, they should easily squash ISIS without the need of western intervention. But perhaps they don't see them as "pseudo"; maybe they see them as fellow sunnis bringing true religion to the yazidis as Mohamed did, by conquest.

Brent

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