On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 25 Aug 2014, at 21:04, meekerdb wrote: > > Bostrom says, "If humanity had been sane and had our act together > globally, the sensible course of action would be to postpone development of > superintelligence until we figured out how to do so safely. And then maybe > wait another generation or two just to make sure that we hadn't overlooked > some flaw in our reasoning. And then do it -- and reap immense benefit. > Unfortunately, we do not have the ability to pause." > > But maybe he's forgotten the Dark Ages. I think ISIS is working hard to > produce a pause. > > > I agree. ISIS, Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, etc. > > It is not Islam, in my current opinion, but I read the Hamas chart, and, > well, I have only read one half of the Quran for now, and it is hard to > interpret (I do think the hamas is inconsistent with the surrah of the > poets and the surrah of the table), but I read entirely "mein kampf", and > the chart of the hamas extends mein kampf, and indeed those guys works hard > and patiently to produce a pause, may be one more millenium of obscurity. > > Religion are like drug, the more you repress them, the more they get > solid. The christian era is already a consequence of the attempt by the > Romans to eradicate christianity from the empire, we know the result. > Bruno, According to Harvard scholars the Romans invented Christianity to keep the Jews in check: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_piso02a.htm > We can't win a war against Islam, but we still can win a war against > nazism (program of eliminating categories of people). > > > We should better not confuse the pseudo-muslim nazis from the muslims. > > > > On 8/25/2014 10:27 AM > > Artificial Intelligence May Doom The Human Race Within A Century, Oxford > Professor > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/artificial-intelligence-oxford_n_5689858.html?ir=Science > > > > The probability is still higher that Human Intelligence May Doom Us more > efficaciously. > > We never know what we do, in term of the long run. > > Ah! I told you that we should not have left the Ocean! > > ... > > People want to be "politically correct" and gives the same voice to the > just and the unjust. > If you define the just by the one who does not impose its will on other, > and the unjust by the one who does impose its will on the other, you can > understand that there is a polarity where political correctness is wrong > and dangerous. Voltaire said the beautiful (but dangerous) statement "I > disagree with what you say, but I am willing to die for you having the > right to say it". He should have added the proviso that this is so as long > as you don't tell lies on me or my friends or use words or weapon to limit > my liberty and will". > > Freedom of expression is freedom of hypothesis/theories and duty of > explanations and consultations. > > Of course we live our tolerance of the use of authoritative arguments in > theology and human science since 523 AC. It is "our" tradition. > > If theology never left the academy, today there would be "Nobel Prize" or > other Field Medals in theology, and I guess that an unanimity would exist > that anyone killing in the name of the one having no name, would be mocked > as the very one lacking faith, and blaspheming. > > If we remain as bad in human and fundamental science (meaning really: > being so ignorant of the difficulties and questions, and being so able to > deny evidences, or to confuse A-> B with B ->A), then it is pretty clear we > will be as much bad in the machine science, to our detriment. If we don't > recognize ourself in them, they will not recognize ourselves either. Many > futures are possible. I would suggest trying the harm reduction path. > > Bruno > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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