I agree, but I strongly suspect that one does not "program" an AGI, we would "grow" it and "teach" it....
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:15 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5 September 2014 15:13, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> But you seem to assume that it has awareness of "people" beyond the >> sensor data + computations that it can access and generate. Where did the >> property of "people" come from. >> > > I'm not assuming it just happens. I'm assuming it's a useful way for any > perceiver to divide up the world, especially if it has to interact with > that world. Given that what really exists are quantum fields, or whatever, > our internal model of the world is presumably the most useful one evolution > could come up with. It seems likely AIs would have to either develop or be > pre-programmed with something simliar in order to interact with the world. > > >> Consider the case were the Google "thing" discovered cats from >> processing YouTube data. Why do we think that it's interpretation of what a >> cat is is anything other than a patterns that re-occurs (modulo affine and >> other transformations) in many different "videos". >> > > I am assuming an AI is more intelligent that this, certainly. > >> >> I am trying to get you to see that we assume that everything "sees the >> same world" as oneself, and this could very well not be true! I have been >> studying machine learning and anything AGI related in the literature. It is >> common knowledge among the experts in that field that the machines >> absolutely do not "see the same world" as we do! It is a very hard problem >> figuring out how to get the machines to interpret the data patterns in ways >> consistent with how we do..... >> > > If we have to work it out, then we may not be creating an AI. I think > Clarke had the right idea when he said that HAL had to be taught about the > world. I suspect that children don't come with a huge amount of built in > knowledge either. > > >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/YJeHJO5dNqQ/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 [email protected] http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
