On 10 September 2014 08:56, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Liz:
> instinctive or learned? our instincts are not 'god-given', they developed
> by learning.
>

Yes, they are a form of genetic learning.


> Then you use my favorite put-down word: "adaptive".
>

Pot, kettle. You just used a put down by calling it a put down.


> I see no 'adaptation' as assigned to (evolutionary?) mutations. *How*
> would a creature recognize benefit/disadvantage ratios to DECIDE what is
> good for her? then again: *How *would the offsprings remember and FIND
> WAYS to implement the GOOD - or eliminate the BAD (as they think of it)?
> then - *HOW* would they do it? (These are some steps for an adaptation).
>

I assume you know about natural selection, so that's one filter for genes
to learn adaptive behaviour. Otherwise, at what I would consider a higher
level, we have culture in various forms, from learning by imitation to the
internet.


> What seems (to me!) more rational: there are tendecies (pressures?) in the
> infinite world (of which we know only a tiny fraction - but are subjected
> to all) and our complexity responds to them as they expose themselves onto
> us. Given the momentary status with more, or less efficiency.
>

Sounds like a vague and woolly version of evolution, so (like Brent on many
occasions) I suspect you are sounding like you disagree but actually
agreeing.


> The result of such change is what we may call (mutational??) adaptation in
> the coming generations. Good, or bad.
>

Or we could stick with accepted usage and call it evolution.


> The zebra-fish brain imaging (Chris) is a 'physical-world' representation
> of something more than a billon times simpler than our own mentality (if it
> is right to calculate proportions). I would be happy to see 'adaptive
> behavior' - or, 'strategic awareness' in the fish brain examined in
> physico/physiological numerical *data* comparison only.
>

Does not compute. Please resubmit your input in English.


> Does it point to *topical* features?
>

You mean, is the fish thinking about sun-cream? I'm afraid we can only
conjecture at this stage.

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