On 10 September 2014 08:56, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > Liz: > instinctive or learned? our instincts are not 'god-given', they developed > by learning. >
Yes, they are a form of genetic learning. > Then you use my favorite put-down word: "adaptive". > Pot, kettle. You just used a put down by calling it a put down. > I see no 'adaptation' as assigned to (evolutionary?) mutations. *How* > would a creature recognize benefit/disadvantage ratios to DECIDE what is > good for her? then again: *How *would the offsprings remember and FIND > WAYS to implement the GOOD - or eliminate the BAD (as they think of it)? > then - *HOW* would they do it? (These are some steps for an adaptation). > I assume you know about natural selection, so that's one filter for genes to learn adaptive behaviour. Otherwise, at what I would consider a higher level, we have culture in various forms, from learning by imitation to the internet. > What seems (to me!) more rational: there are tendecies (pressures?) in the > infinite world (of which we know only a tiny fraction - but are subjected > to all) and our complexity responds to them as they expose themselves onto > us. Given the momentary status with more, or less efficiency. > Sounds like a vague and woolly version of evolution, so (like Brent on many occasions) I suspect you are sounding like you disagree but actually agreeing. > The result of such change is what we may call (mutational??) adaptation in > the coming generations. Good, or bad. > Or we could stick with accepted usage and call it evolution. > The zebra-fish brain imaging (Chris) is a 'physical-world' representation > of something more than a billon times simpler than our own mentality (if it > is right to calculate proportions). I would be happy to see 'adaptive > behavior' - or, 'strategic awareness' in the fish brain examined in > physico/physiological numerical *data* comparison only. > Does not compute. Please resubmit your input in English. > Does it point to *topical* features? > You mean, is the fish thinking about sun-cream? I'm afraid we can only conjecture at this stage. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

