RE: Fish can communicate and UNDERSTAND each other!

Thu, 11 Sep 2014 18:09:07 -0700 

 

 

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruno Marchal
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:14 AM
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Subject: Re: Fish can communicate and UNDERSTAND each other!

 

 

On 09 Sep 2014, at 05:16, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:





Some pretty amazing adaptive behavior with clear strategic awareness. It
shows what even a small fish brain is capable of (small as compared with a
humans almost 100 billion neurons)

Thought you might enjoy watching this clip 80,000 neurons fire in a
zebrafish brain

http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20142907-25942.html

 

I watched it over a few times seeing this simple, yet still fairly numerous
80,000 node + (multiple factors more synaptic connections) network in
dynamic action.. How it lights up then relaxes back into lower activity; how
activity in one region of the fish brain seems to trigger or be associated
with other areas that light up with neural activity in a seemingly
synchronized manner.

 

Fascinating. It looks like one of Telmo's graph, with an observable
dynamics. 

Those transparent animals reminds me of the planar boolean graph of the MGA
...

 

It makes me wonder if there are certain meta behaviors that large highly
networked and parallelized systems share in common. Wonder if there are
certain equations that could express these, if they do exist and again if
such underlying common behavior exists if a knowledge of them can help
designers create better systems. 

For example, how do large wide area networks link up, i.e. what is the
topology of their vertices? How do local area connections and sub networks
interact with and become affected by other dynamic network activity that has
a  wide area scope and reach.. And the role that long distance vertices have
to play in linking the large number of local groups into a cohesively
functioning whole.

The dynamic functioning of highly parallelized, non-centrally directed (or
timed either) wide area networks, characterized by having a plethora of
regions of specialization, is something I find of particular interest.

-Chris

 

 





 

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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Paul King
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 3:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Fish can communicate and UNDERSTAND each other!

 

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2014/09/08/when-your-preys-in-a-hole
-and-you-dont-have-a-pole-use-a-moray/


 

 

I told you that most animals are less stupid than we might think :)

 

Stupidity grows with competence. With a big brain and agile hands, you *can*
blow up the planet.

 

Intelligence if of type <>t.  You have <>t -> <> ~<>t.  Consistency entails
the consistency of inconsistency.It is the basic roots of all our human and
living-being problems. I think.

 

I think that we can teach a planaria to move in a virtual environment, and
this could be handy to study simple natural neural net. And copy them. Even
for planaria (thousand of neurons, only 19 optical neuron entries)  we might
copy them a long time before having a mathematical specification of the
global functioning. The extreme regeneration power of the planaria is also
helpful in the study of brain development.

 

http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Planaria_nervous_system

 

or

 

http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/363/1500/2071.full

 

 

n neuron machines can only support mathematical specification for m neuron
machines when m is much less than n.

 

Bruno

 

 





 

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