Well, me neither, but it includes infinities - atoms would probably collapse - etc. But just a guess hence the provisos. Personally I would imagine most mathematical universes wouldn't support life though.
On 13 September 2014 17:49, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 9/12/2014 10:25 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 13 September 2014 08:17, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 9/12/2014 2:20 AM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 12 September 2014 14:19, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> One counter argument is to note that math has been "unreasonably >>> effective" in Ptolemaic astronomy, Newtonian physics, fluid dynamics, >>> non-relativistic quantum mechanics, and other theories which we now think >>> were mere approximations. This seems much more consistent with mathematics >>> being descriptive rather than prescriptive. >>> >> >> Or equally consistent, at least. Assuming that maths is broader than >> what is required to describe (or generate) our universe, this is equally >> consistent with the MUH. >> >> I don't think it's equal. If MUH is true then all those other >> mathematical theories must be realized in some other universes where they >> are not just approximations. Then it's no longer the case that mathematics >> is unreasonably effective in picking out our universe; it could "pick out" >> any one of them. Either it would just be chance that we're in THIS >> mathematical universe, or there's an anthropic selection that prevents >> intelligent beings in universes with different mathematical bases. >> >> It seems obvious to me that there would be an anthropic selection > effect. Organisms (probably) couldn't exist in a universe made from, for > example, Newtonian physics - you (probably) need quantum physics for > fidelity of reproduction, and maybe for making brains. > > > Yes, I agree that there's bound to be some anthropic selection, although > I'm not sure why a Newtonian universe is ruled out by that. Quantum > physics, as we've formulated it depends on a continuum. I would expect > that most continuum based theories could support intelligent life simply > because they permit lots of information. But it's very speculative. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
