On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:


> As I've said no natural phenomenon has ever been found where nature must
>>> solve a NP-hard problem to figure out what to do next,
>>>
>>
>> >> Protein folding?
>>
>
> > He uses anyway a bad example, NP-hard problem are computable


I never said they weren't.

> they just take exponential time to solve.
>

Just? It means that even if your computer is the size of the Earth it will
take you a trillion years to find the answer, and if you make the question
just slightly more complicated it will take ENORMOUSLY longer than a
trillion years to find the answer.

> We were talking about non-computable problems, and nature could use
> unknown non-computable things for consciousness
>

There is not a scrap of evidence that nature knows how to solve NP-complete
problems (much less non-computable problems!) any better than we can.
Although we don't know for sure most think that even a Quantum Computer
couldn't solve NP-complete problems, most think that there is a class of
problems that are harder than those that any conventional computer could
solve but not as hard as NP-complete problems, and a Quantum Computer could
solve those. Obviously no computer of any sort can solve non-computable
problems, and neither can nature.

  John K Clark

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