On 02 Oct 2014, at 14:41, Telmo Menezes wrote:



On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:25 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:


This is why I find protein folding intriguing. I see the following possibilities:

-> Molecular interactions entail an immense computational power;
-> P = NP;
-> We are constantly winning at quantum suicide.
Am I missing something?

P=/=NP doesn't mean that NP problems require "immense computational power" beyond what could biochemistry can provide. Being NP is just a statement about how a problem scales with size of the input. But for some given finite size it might be quickly solved.

Right, but with protein folding we have an interesting comparison. Given the practical applications, many bioinformatics labs are working on the problem. Finding the lowest energy state for many interesting proteins seems to be beyond the capabilities of very powerful clusters using current algorithms.

I agree with you that the most likely answer is that biochemistry can indeed provide this computational power, but this is not an observation devoid of interesting implications. One is technological: imagine what we could do with biochemical computers. The other is related to the brain: if biochemistry can unleash this computational power, then surely the brain uses it. In which case our estimations of how far away we are from AGI may be optimistic.

But what is an AGI? A machine which decapitate another machines becomes the run another program?

I think that Löbian universal machines are already intelligent, and that we can accelerate the growing of competence, although this is utimately what intelligence is for on this plane, but this might limit their intelligence, and indeed they might become as delusional and 'stupid' like us and get sleepy in the samsara.




Sorry for the tangents in any case.

Sorry for mine too.

Best,

Bruno



Cheers
Telmo.


Brent


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