The key point is that atheist don't believe in God, but believe that God deos not exist. But to have such a belief you need to believe that you have the right notion of God, and this is what they share with the christian: the same conception of God, even if it is to assert its non existence. They dismiss, like the fundamentalist christian, the possibility that there is other religions, or other conception of God, which shows they don't read the literature.

Bruno

On 16 Oct 2014, at 08:44, LizR wrote:

Sounds like doublethink to me....which was of course a virtue and a necessity if you lived on Airstrip One.

On 16 October 2014 18:21, Platonist Guitar Cowboy <[email protected] > wrote:


On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:28 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

I works with "house" and "Brent" too. What's curious is that failing to believe in anything implies that you do believe in it. I suppose it goes along with the spirit of "everything". If I can think of it clearly enough to fail to believe it exists then it must be among the the everything that exists.


If Bp & ~p, then the machine just reasons inaccurately. Believing in Santa, even though not real (real enough to be minor source of income for some at certain times of year...), like children that go through the Santa performance.

If you believe p while also not believing p, then you are peculiar reasoner.

Peculiar machine/reasoning: Bp & B~Bp

If I remember this stuff... so grain of salt.

But yes, negation as a whole is kinda weird/curious fundamentally. PGC


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