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 I do know that philosopher, Eric Steinhardt, has worked on the concept of 
parallel universes, and the notion of some kind of immortality, but I think at 
last post, Steinhardt believes that each universe is it's own world line and 
thus no information flows betwixt and between each parallel world. This is a 
bit different than the science paper just presented.


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Chris, let me reflect to '2' words. (I never studied QM, have some glimpse as a 
polymer chemist, so I do NOT argue against the theory)
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    <b>Parallel </b>
   
   

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In what sense are 'universes' compared to be deemed parallel?
   
   

I presume in my agnostic views that there may be many more visions in which 2 
systems may be deemed parallel (or: antiparallel?) 
   
   

They may diverge in time, spacial extension, forcefields, lifespan, etc. etc.
   
   

In my narrative (I never called it a 'theory') the perfectly symmetrical and 
equilibrated "Plenitude" (imaginary vision of Everything in balance) there are 
inevitably items getting grouped together in a way that violates the perfect 
symmetrical distribution (complexities?) and I called those 'universes'. They 
re-dissipate into the perfect symmetry right as they formed (in our case: 
viewed from the INSIDE as a long long time in our Space-Time views). 
   
   

Such 'universes' have different compositions according to the items forming 
them, at least I did not project/propose any rules to their composition. 
   
   

We know nothing about the Plenitude (word taken from Plato). 
   
   

    

   
   

2.a quote from the URL:
    <b> 'microscopic'</b>
   
   

    

   
   

    <span 
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 theory is needed to explain how the universe works at the <u>microscopic</u> 
scale, and is believed to apply to all matter.) </i></span>
   
   

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    <span 
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">'Microscopic
 to what? to our human sizes? to the sub-Planck, or the galaxy-size extensions? 
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    <span 
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 my agnostic views: who knows what "worlds" do exist in quite different orders 
of magnitude from our habituel rulers? </span>
   
   

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    <span 
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 tasting words</span>
   
   

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On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 5:04 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
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          <span 
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MWI, but asserts that the parallel universe's subtle interactions explain the 
weirdness of quantum mecahnics</span>
         
         

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          <span 
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University academics are challenging the foundations of quantum science with a 
radical new theory based on the existence of, and interactions between, 
parallel universes.</span>
          

         
         

          

         
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In a paper published in the prestigious journal 
          <i style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Physical Review X</i>, Professor 
Howard Wiseman and Dr Michael Hall from Griffith's Centre for Quantum Dynamics, 
and Dr Dirk-Andre Deckert from the University of California, take interacting 
parallel worlds out of the realm of science fiction and into that of hard 
science.
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          <span style="background-color:rgb(253,239,43)">The team proposes that 
parallel universes really exist, and that they interact. That is, rather than 
evolving independently, nearby worlds influence one another by a subtle force 
of repulsion. They show that such an interaction could explain everything that 
is bizarre about <a rel="nofollow" 
style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px" target="_blank" 
href="http://phys.org/tags/quantum+mechanics/";>quantum mechanics</a></span>
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Quantum theory is needed to explain how the universe works at the microscopic 
scale, and is believed to apply to all matter. But it is notoriously difficult 
to fathom, exhibiting weird phenomena which seem to violate the laws of cause 
and effect.
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As the eminent American theoretical physicist Richard Feynman once noted: "I 
think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics."
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However, the "Many-Interacting Worlds" approach developed at Griffith 
University provides a new and daring perspective on this baffling field.
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"The idea of 
          <a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px" 
target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/tags/parallel+universes/";>parallel 
universes</a> in quantum mechanics has been around since 1957," says Professor 
Wiseman.
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"In the well-known "Many-Worlds Interpretation", each universe branches into a 
bunch of new universes every time a quantum measurement is made. All 
possibilities are therefore realised – in some universes the dinosaur-killing 
asteroid missed Earth. In others, Australia was colonised by the Portuguese.
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"But critics question the reality of these other universes, since they do not 
influence our universe at all. On this score, our "Many Interacting Worlds" 
approach is completely different, as its name implies."
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Professor Wiseman and his colleagues propose that:
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          <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style-type:disc">The universe 
we experience is just one of a gigantic number of worlds. Some are almost 
identical to ours while most are very different;</li>
          <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style-type:disc">All of these 
worlds are equally real, exist continuously through time, and possess precisely 
defined properties;</li>
          <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style-type:disc">All quantum 
phenomena arise from a universal force of repulsion between 'nearby' (i.e. 
similar) worlds which tends to make them more dissimilar.</li>
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Dr Hall says the "Many-Interacting Worlds" theory may even create the 
extraordinary possibility of testing for the existence of other worlds.
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"The beauty of our approach is that if there is just one world our theory 
reduces to Newtonian mechanics, while if there is a gigantic number of worlds 
it reproduces quantum mechanics," he says.
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"In between it predicts something new that is neither Newton's theory nor 
          <a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px" 
target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/tags/quantum+theory/";>quantum theory</a>.
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"We also believe that, in providing a new mental picture of quantum effects, it 
will be useful in planning experiments to test and exploit 
          <a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px" 
target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/tags/quantum+phenomena/";>quantum 
phenomena</a>."
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The ability to approximate quantum evolution using a finite number of worlds 
could have significant ramifications in molecular dynamics, which is important 
for understanding chemical reactions and the action of drugs.
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Professor Bill Poirier, Distinguished Professor of Chemistry at Texas Tech 
University, has observed: "These are great ideas, not only conceptually, but 
also with regard to the new numerical breakthroughs they are almost certain to 
engender."
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