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I do know that philosopher, Eric Steinhardt, has worked on the concept of parallel universes, and the notion of some kind of immortality, but I think at last post, Steinhardt believes that each universe is it's own world line and thus no information flows betwixt and between each parallel world. This is a bit different than the science paper just presented. -----Original Message----- From: John Mikes <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Oct 31, 2014 05:36 PM Subject: Re: Do parallel universes really exist, and interact <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_4228ba53-7fca-478a-9995-973c5186a66f"> <div class="aolReplacedBody"> <div dir="ltr"> Chris, let me reflect to '2' words. (I never studied QM, have some glimpse as a polymer chemist, so I do NOT argue against the theory) <div> <div> 1. <b>Parallel </b> <b> </b> In what sense are 'universes' compared to be deemed parallel? I presume in my agnostic views that there may be many more visions in which 2 systems may be deemed parallel (or: antiparallel?) They may diverge in time, spacial extension, forcefields, lifespan, etc. etc. In my narrative (I never called it a 'theory') the perfectly symmetrical and equilibrated "Plenitude" (imaginary vision of Everything in balance) there are inevitably items getting grouped together in a way that violates the perfect symmetrical distribution (complexities?) and I called those 'universes'. They re-dissipate into the perfect symmetry right as they formed (in our case: viewed from the INSIDE as a long long time in our Space-Time views). Such 'universes' have different compositions according to the items forming them, at least I did not project/propose any rules to their composition. We know nothing about the Plenitude (word taken from Plato). 2.a quote from the URL: <b> 'microscopic'</b> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><i>(Quantum theory is needed to explain how the universe works at the <u>microscopic</u> scale, and is believed to apply to all matter.) </i></span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">'Microscopic to what? to our human sizes? to the sub-Planck, or the galaxy-size extensions? </span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Again my agnostic views: who knows what "worlds" do exist in quite different orders of magnitude from our habituel rulers? </span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Just tasting words</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">John Mikes</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><i> </i></span> <br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Read more at: </span> <a style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline:0px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px" target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/news/2014-10-interacting-worlds-theory-scientists-interaction.html#jCp">http://phys.org/news/2014-10-interacting-worlds-theory-scientists-interaction.html#jCp</a> </div> </div> <div class="aolmail_gmail_extra"> <div class="aolmail_gmail_quote"> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 5:04 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote: <blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:lucida console,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div> <div> <div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:lucida console,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Sounds a lot like MWI, but asserts that the parallel universe's subtle interactions explain the weirdness of quantum mecahnics</span> <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span> <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> <span>Read more at: </span><a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/news/2014-10-interacting-worlds-theory-scientists-interaction.html#jCp">http://phys.org/news/2014-10-interacting-worlds-theory-scientists-interaction.html#jCp</a> </span> <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Griffith University academics are challenging the foundations of quantum science with a radical new theory based on the existence of, and interactions between, parallel universes.</span> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> In a paper published in the prestigious journal <i style="margin:0px;padding:0px">Physical Review X</i>, Professor Howard Wiseman and Dr Michael Hall from Griffith's Centre for Quantum Dynamics, and Dr Dirk-Andre Deckert from the University of California, take interacting parallel worlds out of the realm of science fiction and into that of hard science. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> <span style="background-color:rgb(253,239,43)">The team proposes that parallel universes really exist, and that they interact. That is, rather than evolving independently, nearby worlds influence one another by a subtle force of repulsion. They show that such an interaction could explain everything that is bizarre about <a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px" target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/tags/quantum+mechanics/">quantum mechanics</a></span> </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> Quantum theory is needed to explain how the universe works at the microscopic scale, and is believed to apply to all matter. But it is notoriously difficult to fathom, exhibiting weird phenomena which seem to violate the laws of cause and effect. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> As the eminent American theoretical physicist Richard Feynman once noted: "I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics." </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> However, the "Many-Interacting Worlds" approach developed at Griffith University provides a new and daring perspective on this baffling field. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> "The idea of <a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px" target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/tags/parallel+universes/">parallel universes</a> in quantum mechanics has been around since 1957," says Professor Wiseman. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> "In the well-known "Many-Worlds Interpretation", each universe branches into a bunch of new universes every time a quantum measurement is made. All possibilities are therefore realised – in some universes the dinosaur-killing asteroid missed Earth. In others, Australia was colonised by the Portuguese. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> "But critics question the reality of these other universes, since they do not influence our universe at all. On this score, our "Many Interacting Worlds" approach is completely different, as its name implies." </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> Professor Wiseman and his colleagues propose that: </div> <ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:15px;padding-left:15px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px"> <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style-type:disc">The universe we experience is just one of a gigantic number of worlds. Some are almost identical to ours while most are very different;</li> <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style-type:disc">All of these worlds are equally real, exist continuously through time, and possess precisely defined properties;</li> <li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;list-style-type:disc">All quantum phenomena arise from a universal force of repulsion between 'nearby' (i.e. similar) worlds which tends to make them more dissimilar.</li> </ul> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> Dr Hall says the "Many-Interacting Worlds" theory may even create the extraordinary possibility of testing for the existence of other worlds. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> "The beauty of our approach is that if there is just one world our theory reduces to Newtonian mechanics, while if there is a gigantic number of worlds it reproduces quantum mechanics," he says. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> "In between it predicts something new that is neither Newton's theory nor <a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px" target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/tags/quantum+theory/">quantum theory</a>. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> "We also believe that, in providing a new mental picture of quantum effects, it will be useful in planning experiments to test and exploit <a rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(49,61,87);outline-width:0px" target="_blank" href="http://phys.org/tags/quantum+phenomena/">quantum phenomena</a>." </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> The ability to approximate quantum evolution using a finite number of worlds could have significant ramifications in molecular dynamics, which is important for understanding chemical reactions and the action of drugs. </div> <div style="padding-bottom:17px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:1.4"> Professor Bill Poirier, Distinguished Professor of Chemistry at Texas Tech University, has observed: "These are great ideas, not only conceptually, but also with regard to the new numerical breakthroughs they are almost certain to engender." </div> <span class="aolmail_HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> </font></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <span class="aolmail_HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> <p></p> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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