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 Hi Liz, I think that Tipler handbarrow were imagining a time in the office 
distant future when there would be such a superb amount of Higgs energy, or 
sheer energy that that would be power to recollapse the universe into what we 
would call Computronium. That according to Tipler is the cosmological anthropic 
singularity also known as God. Tiplers a solid Christian, so of course this 
singularity is triune. Hans Moravec took a more agnostic approach, and believed 
our descendents will re-create us as virtual-reality programs inside a very big 
virtual-reality program without having to collapse the universe. 

As Nick Bostrom might say, who knows maybe where this already virtual-reality 
characters inside a program? What's more troubling at least for me personally 
is that there has been virtually nobody to pick up the torch of Tipler or 
Moravec as far as reconstructing dead entities, also known as people. In my own 
stupid way, I have tried to understand Prof. Bruno Marchal's version of post 
mortality, but still cannot really connect with it intellectually. Ashamed to 
admit.


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Just to throw my own opinion in, according to Moravec, QI isn't the primary 
method of immortality (or post mortality) it is the reconstruction of dead 
people via ultra-massive, computer re-simulation. Moravec's description in Mind 
Children, it was computers built out of neutron star material (degenerate 
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Also according to Frank Tipler, although he appears to require a recollapsing 
universe to do it (I'm not sure why).
    
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