On 11/15/2014 12:41 AM, LizR wrote:
On 15 November 2014 20:27, Peter Sas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Russell, thanks for your answer... I will definitely give your book a 
closer
    reading in the near future, if I can get my poor philosopher's head to 
understand
    the mathematics :)

    I hope you don't mind answering some questions in advance. You wrote:

    Exactly. The source of the symmetry breaking is the action of an

        observer. Symmetry is restored by considering all other observers out
        there in the "Nothing"-verse (more commonly called the Plenitude).


    This what I don't get: How can there already exist observers (or at least 
one
    observer) prior to the symmetry breaking, given that it is this breaking 
that turns
    zero-info into info?


I don't think the claim is that the observers exist prior to the Nothing in a temporal sense, an ontological sense, or even a logically prior sense. I think your viewpoint as expressed below, of the form "A must exist in order to cause B" isn't exactly how it works, although I am hard pressed to put this intuition into words. I'm sure Russell can answer you far more precisely, but my feeling is that the Nothing is symmetrical and that the symmetry isn't broken in the physicist's sense, but only because for every observer doing action A there is an "anti-observer" doing the opposite action, and that these cancel out overall (though not locally, and we can only ever observe what's happening locally). To put it another way, if we assume the world is somehow built from information, this is along the lines of each positive number having a negative counterpart.

Or as my friend Yonatan Fishman summarized it, "The world is just nothing, 
rearranaged."

Brent

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