On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Richard Ruquist wrote: > >> Wrong. Renormalization multiples the total energy in the multiverse. >> > > I can do no more than refer you to Frank Wilczek: > > http://frankwilczek.com/2013/multiverseEnergy01.pdf Excerpt: "In this precise sense those two branches describe mutually inaccessible (decoherent) worlds, both made of the same materials, and both occupying the same space. " Two whole worlds of extra energy and matter. You got to be kidding. > > > Bruce > > > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Richard Ruquist wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Bruce Kellett >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:bhkellett@optusnet.__com.au >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> On 24 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Richard Ruquist wrote: >> >> With MWI thinking, every detector will detect a >> photon at >> the same energy and frequency as the original photon >> but in >> a different world. So the total energy in the >> multiverse >> will locally have increased by the number of >> detectors times >> the photon energy. The only way to conserve energy is >> to >> detect only one photon of the same energy and >> frequency as >> the original photon. >> >> >> ... or the conservation of energy is something which has >> to be >> accounted in branches, not in the multiverse. >> >> >> >> I don't think so. The multiverse is described by the SWE, >> and that >> is just a unitary transformation in Hilbert space. It >> satisfies >> energy conservation by construction (time translation >> invariance and >> Noether's theorem). >> >> You have to renormalize in each branch to get the observed >> branch-wise energy conservation -- conservation is automatic >> only >> for the multiverse. >> >> >> Renormalization increases the energy of the multiverse. No >> conservation. No renormalization results in chaos. >> >> >> Renormalizing the (collapsed) wave function for a branch does not >> affect the wave function of the multiverse. The procedure is ugly, >> but doesn't lead to difficulties. >> >> Bruce >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
