On 24 Nov 2014, at 23:07, Bruce Kellett wrote:

Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 24 Nov 2014, at 11:35, Richard Ruquist wrote:
With MWI thinking, every detector will detect a photon at the same energy and frequency as the original photon but in a different world. So the total energy in the multiverse will locally have increased by the number of detectors times the photon energy. The only way to conserve energy is to detect only one photon of the same energy and frequency as the original photon.
... or the conservation of energy is something which has to be accounted in branches, not in the multiverse.


I don't think so. The multiverse is described by the SWE, and that is just a unitary transformation in Hilbert space. It satisfies energy conservation by construction (time translation invariance and Noether's theorem).

OK. I was wrong.
Then energy conservation is true only in the average branches. That might provide a QM explanation why there is a universe with some energy "in there".


You have to renormalize in each branch to get the observed branch- wise energy conservation -- conservation is automatic only for the multiverse.

OK, that confirms my feeling that conservation of probabilities is related to conservation of energy (and information).

I took a look on Wilczek, and I think he is right, at least assuming QM is 100% correct (but in that case we can in principle recover whatever fall in a black hole, and GR needs to be changed. Is that not what most people believe?).


Bruno



Bruce

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