RE: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to dialectics?

['Chris de Morsella' via Everything List]

 

 

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In regard to:

"If nothing existed; would it remain nothing?"

This is exactly what I'm suggesting.  It would not remain "nothing".  We 
usually think of the situation when you get rid of all matter, energy, 
space/volume, time, abstract concepts, minds, etc. as "nothing".  But, what I'm 
saying is that this supposed "nothing" really isn't the lack of all existent 
entities.  That "nothing" would be the entirety of all that is present; that's 
it; there's nothing else.  It would be the all.  An entirety is a grouping 
defining what is contained within and therefore an existent entity, based on my 
definition of an existent entity.   So, even what we think of as "nothing" is 
an existent entity or "something".  This means that "something" is 
non-contingent.  It's necessary.  There is no such thing as the lack of all 
existent entities.

 

Roger – you have much to say about nothing [just joking] 

I agree with the distinction you make between nothing arrived at through the 
negative process of removing everything that exists until nothing is left 
versus the nothing *that is* everything. 

Further down, if I follow you, you are making the point that if we are speaking 
about the *nothing that is the set of everything there is* then even if this is 
an empty set, by virtue of a set being something – a conceptual entity – then 
even the absolutely empty universal set {} exists as a conceptual entity at 
least.

Is that a fair recap of your intent; or am I off the mark?

-Chris

On Saturday, January 3, 2015 1:17:27 AM UTC-5, cdemorsella wrote:

 

 

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Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to 
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On 1/2/2015 9:05 PM, 'Roger' via Everything List wrote:

Even if the word "exists" has no use because everything exists, it seems 
important to know why everything exists.  How is it that a thing can exist?  
What I suggest is that a grouping defining what is contained within is an 
existent entity.  Then, you can use this to try and answer the other question 
of "Why is there something rather than nothing?".


If everything exists, what doesn't exist?  Nothing.

 

If nothing existed; would it remain nothing?

-Chris

Brent

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