RE: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of view

Mon, 19 Jan 2015 11:19:06 -0800 

 

 

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Based on the US experience, the sales pitch that all is wonderful has failed 
and keeps failing, simply because the selling doesn't live up to reality. In 
the US we used to call this, Wrapping yourself up in the flag." Or as the 
British Dr. Johnson once wrote, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." 
In the US we have added an amended version of Doc Johnson's statement, which 
is, "Calling racism is the new last refuge of a scoundrel." Case in point is 
the reverend Al Sharpton who call racism at every junction and if there isn't 
anything to talk about like a police killing, he will make one up out of whole 
cloth, as he did with the Tawanna Brawley incident years ago. He tends to take 
huge sums from big corporations so as to avoid picketing and protestors outside 
company headquarters. Needless to state, it has been profitable for him, 
personally, without changing the corporate climate or the number of black 
American's actually hired. As far as freedom goes, most people in the US only 
care about it when its restricted for themselves, and, in any case, most have 
zero to really say. The US is the same country whose voters would sell their 
votes for free cell phones, food stamps (subsidized purchases), and fatter 
welfare checks. I don't see this changing anytime soon and do expect Mama 
Clinton, in the US to win the presidency in 2016. 

 

This stream of “consciousness” of yours provides a fascinating window into the 
discombobulated processes at work in your brain, as it fires on all four 
cylinders. It seems like you are trying to say something important, but are 
having a lot of trouble forming cogent opinions. 

Perhaps if instead of spending all these years angry at all those identifiable 
“other” people for having “robbed” you of the life you “were entitled” to, you 
had instead done something about it to improve your own skills you would be 
better off. You Tea Party types always blaming other people for your ills… and 
never doing anything of substance to take personal responsibility.

As I pointed out the Blue states are the states that are actually paying for 
the government; we are net contributors. On average Red states depend on 
federal government largesse; e.g. a bunch of welfare recipients.

 

 

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From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
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Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of 
view

 

 

On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:15 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

Seconded (I am allowed to say that, right?)

 

Of course it isn't just France. And some countries go one step further and 
actively brainwash their citizens from an early age into thinking they are 
wonderful, and thus try to prevent even the possibility of "thoughtcrime".

 

I completely agree with you and Chris on this.

 

The tragic thing for me, as an European, is that the USA were the ones leading 
the way in terms of free speech. Europe never adopted something as strong as 
the first amendment. Europeans love to say the "free speech has its limits", 
which is a nonsensical, in my opinion.

 

I always assume that Europe would catch up with the USA on this. Unfortunately, 
it seems that the opposite is happening.

 

 

On 18 January 2015 at 17:06, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List 
<[email protected]> wrote:

It is sad to see, for France has such a heritage, but it seems there is 
diminishing actual functioning Free Speech rights in France; when scores of 
people are getting arrested and thrown into jail for unpopular free speech, 
which in France has now become the new Orwellian thought crime of “supporting 
terrorism”.

Either Free Speech applies to all; or it does not apply. If unpopular – and 
even repugnant -- free speech is punished with long jail terms; then the state 
sanctioned mechanisms are in place for destroying effective right of free 
speech, which soon becomes free only when it reflects the desire of those who 
rule.

 

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