War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

Did he have a hotline to the 21st century or what???


On 21 January 2015 at 10:00, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
[email protected]> wrote:

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>  *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>
>
>
> Forget ball games. I wager that when the jihadists strike here in either a
> series of small attacks or another 911, your side, for coddling the
> jihadists will be held to account. And, sadly, people will say, "At least
> under Bush we felt safe."
>
> Like any good fascist you take your propagandist tactics right from
> Goebbels playbook. Just because I don't want get with your insane genocidal
> clash of civilizations program does not mean that therefore I am "coddling"
> jihadist criminals. Screw you and your attempt to pin responsibility on me
> -- and everyone who does not buy into your extremist world views - for the
> acts of violent criminals.
>
> If you really believe your own invective then you should be going off
> yourself to fight your crusade... why aren't you? Are you a coward? Who
> demands others go do the dying for your psychopathic desires
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
> [email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 7:21 pm
> Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point
> of view
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>
>
>   >>Hmmm! Then you have wasted your companie's, valuable time bantering
> with someone you don't like and can't control? Some software schmuck, you
> must be. Where are your ethics, man? Oh, wait, I take that back, for most
> progressives do not possess this attribute, only the hunger to control.
> Well, mah trailer needs propane re-fuelin' and I gotta git down to thuh
> liquer store before mama june kills me. Wee dawgies! Now yew git on and a
> keep a cod'in and developin' whatever that is? P.S, the seahawks suck and
> the pats will roll over yer candy asses. What do yew and the Pats have in
> common? Ansdwer: Deflated balls. Bwah hah hah hah! Even Mama June bust out
> laffin at that wun.
>
> Why would my company care if I take a few minutes here and there during
> the day? It knows -- from working deployed, low defect, high performant
> software -- that it gets excellent value from my services, which is why it
> continues to have me (and others like me)  fulfill them. This is also why
> the globally preeminent technology companies I work for DO NOT -- AND WILL
> NEVER -- higher incompetent angry windbags like you... who have an
> overblown sense of their own entitlement coupled with a lack of any
> valuable real skills. You have nothing of any value to exchange; your labor
> is just not worth very much to them.
>
>  P.S. The Seahawks won the game and are going to the Super Bowl.
> Spectacular last five minutes and over time play on that game.
>
>  But... Hey there goober, isn't it time for you to mosey on down to see
> if your (government) check is in the mail box (delivered to you by our
> socialist mail service).
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
> [email protected]>
> To: Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
> [email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 6:35 pm
> Subject: Fw: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point
> of view
>
>   ----- Forwarded Message -----
>    *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected]>
>
>   >>Nupe. Basically you are explaining away the election losses and the
> endless trail of middle class taxpayer dollars, to the blue state
> governments, their government unions, and the underclass, who is content
> with Mexican billionaire and Obola contributor, Carlos Slim Helu's cheapo
> chump trak phones, welfare checks, food stamps, ghettos, hoods, and
> barrios. What has changed is that from a political studies pov, enough of
> the demographic of the white middle and working classes, who want to work
> (unlike your crack and meth head friends), realize they have gotten burned
> bad, by a political class that is neither interested in their financial
> well being, nor their physical safety, from your Islamic State
> sympathizers, like yourself. I see a time, fairly soon, when a plurality of
> American residents, whether legally here or not will say to themselves, "at
> least under Bushie I felt safe!" I probably care for the Bushes in US
> politics on a scale somewhat less then yourself (hard to say since your
> progie derangement must make cognitive thinking difficult at best for you),
> but based on what is happening overseas, this day will arrive. Keep on
> strumming your guitar dude, its supposedly therapeutic.
>
>  Don't have the time (nor the desire) to respond to your delusional
> oxycontin fueled rant in detail -- because like most progressives -- I am
> at work, earning money for my family to live on. Not all of us can be Tea
> Party welfare queens.
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
> [email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 3:50 pm
> Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point
> of view
>
>   Anyone can look up the facts (over the last few election cycles).
> If you add up all Blue states in one column and all red states in another
> column the blue column of states turns out to be a net contributor to the
> federal revenue; the red states are net recipients of federal tax dollars.
> Such simple mathematical averaging may be beyond your Tea Party math
> skills however; so I can recognize why you are struggling with this... as
> with so many concepts that require some actual thinking.
> This pattern also holds when you do more micro analysis at the zipcode
> level.  The net result is that it is blue America that is actually paying
> the bills, and working to make our country prosper; while it is red America
> that is doing the whining and demanding war.... while living off of those
> government checks.... like welfare queens. The Tea Party hates the hand
> that is feeding it, which you got to admit is fairly ironic.
> Oh, and Mitch it is turkeys like you that are getting stuffed... I know it
> makes you mad as hell. Take some personal responsibility to better your own
> life; it is not the fault of Islam or of those Mexicans laborers either
> that you find yourself so marginalized.
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
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>  *From:* spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 12:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every
> point of view
>
>   The state thing shows how fanatically blind you really are. Illinois,
> prospering, and how's Detroit faring in Michigan? NY state rolling in cash?
> Connecticut cashing in big? What about Red State cash flow? Texas, yes
> indeed, the Dakotas, yep, so your hyperthyroid statements are specious, at
> best. Under your gawd, Bamer, the rich have gotten so much richer, and they
> poor get cellphones. Splendid! Also, if your godling is doing so great,
> then why ask for 320 billion more for the federal budget? This will be in
> his state of destruction message tomorrow night. Most blue state peoples
> are now leaving for the South economically speaking where jobs are to be
> had, because or conservative fiscal practices, which sorry to tell you,
> actually work. Now this is for them blueboys that actually want to work.
> Many who stay, are your kind of people, meth heads that steal from their
> grandma's so as to feed their habit. That sad fact has become kind of
> common in dear old Washington state, hasn't it? Lastly,  Bamer protects the
> super rich in  both parties, so there's your oligarchy. The welfare
> statement is your attempt at humor, or are you really this delusional in
> real life? If anything, conservatives want to cut welfare rolls, while the
> progressive party views then as captive voters who are dependent on the
> graciousness of you fascists, so as to ensure the ballot boxers get
> stuffed. Speaking of getting stuffed, why don't you?
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
> [email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 2:18 pm
> Subject: RE: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point
> of view
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]?>]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 10:49 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every
> point of view
>
>  Based on the US experience, the sales pitch that all is wonderful has
> failed and keeps failing, simply because the selling doesn't live up to
> reality. In the US we used to call this, Wrapping yourself up in the flag."
> Or as the British Dr. Johnson once wrote, "Patriotism is the last refuge of
> a scoundrel." In the US we have added an amended version of Doc Johnson's
> statement, which is, "Calling racism is the new last refuge of a
> scoundrel." Case in point is the reverend Al Sharpton who call racism at
> every junction and if there isn't anything to talk about like a police
> killing, he will make one up out of whole cloth, as he did with the Tawanna
> Brawley incident years ago. He tends to take huge sums from big
> corporations so as to avoid picketing and protestors outside company
> headquarters. Needless to state, it has been profitable for him,
> personally, without changing the corporate climate or the number of black
> American's actually hired. As far as freedom goes, most people in the US
> only care about it when its restricted for themselves, and, in any case,
> most have zero to really say. The US is the same country whose voters would
> sell their votes for free cell phones, food stamps (subsidized purchases),
> and fatter welfare checks. I don't see this changing anytime soon and do
> expect Mama Clinton, in the US to win the presidency in 2016.
>
> This stream of “consciousness” of yours provides a fascinating window into
> the discombobulated processes at work in your brain, as it fires on all
> four cylinders. It seems like you are trying to say something important,
> but are having a lot of trouble forming cogent opinions.
> Perhaps if instead of spending all these years angry at all those
> identifiable “other” people for having “robbed” you of the life you “were
> entitled” to, you had instead done something about it to improve your own
> skills you would be better off. You Tea Party types always blaming other
> people for your ills… and never doing anything of substance to take
> personal responsibility.
> As I pointed out the Blue states are the states that are actually paying
> for the government; we are net contributors. On average Red states depend
> on federal government largesse; e.g. a bunch of welfare recipients.
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
> To: everything-list <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 1:30 pm
> Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point
> of view
>
>
>  On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:15 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>  Seconded (I am allowed to say that, right?)
>
>  Of course it isn't just France. And some countries go one step further
> and actively brainwash their citizens from an early age into thinking they
> are wonderful, and thus try to prevent even the possibility of
> "thoughtcrime".
>
>  I completely agree with you and Chris on this.
>
>  The tragic thing for me, as an European, is that the USA were the ones
> leading the way in terms of free speech. Europe never adopted something as
> strong as the first amendment. Europeans love to say the "free speech has
> its limits", which is a nonsensical, in my opinion.
>
>  I always assume that Europe would catch up with the USA on this.
> Unfortunately, it seems that the opposite is happening.
>
>
>
>  On 18 January 2015 at 17:06, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>   It is sad to see, for France has such a heritage, but it seems there is
> diminishing actual functioning Free Speech rights in France; when scores of
> people are getting arrested and thrown into jail for unpopular free speech,
> which in France has now become the new Orwellian thought crime of
> “supporting terrorism”.
>  Either Free Speech applies to all; or it does not apply. If unpopular –
> and even repugnant -- free speech is punished with long jail terms; then
> the state sanctioned mechanisms are in place for destroying effective right
> of free speech, which soon becomes free only when it reflects the desire of
> those who rule.
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