On Sun, Feb 1, 2015  Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:

>>   EVERYBODY know how to test for consciousness, intelligence
>>  behavior is the test, and and without exception every person on this list
>>  has used that test at least once every single day of their lives. The
>>  entire thing is completely uncontroversial UNTIL you try to apply it to a
>>  computer, and then all of a sudden people insist on changing the rules of
>>  the game because they don't like who's winning.
>
>

>Not quite true. We also know that other humans are constructed the same
> way we are.
>

No, we know for a fact that is NOT true. If everybody was constructed the
same way I am they'd be me. They're not.

> Of course there will always be some people who won't grant consciousness
> (or a soul) to a machine under any circumstances,


Yes, I've noticed.


> > just as there used to be people who didn't think black people, or women,
> possessed a soul.
>

And I can't prove with mathematical rigour that they were wrong about that,
but I really think they were.

  John K Clark

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