On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>
wrote:

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> On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I agree with John. If consciousness had no third-person observable
>> effects, it would be an epiphenomenon. And then there is no way to explain
>> why we're even having this discussion about consciousness.
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> On the contrary, if consciousness were an epiphenomenon that would explain
> why it evolved: it is a necessary side effect of intelligent behaviour,
> and was not developed as a separate, useless add-on.
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>

If consciousness is a side-effect that has no other effects, then where is
the information coming from when a person articulates something about their
conscious experience? If consciousness itself has no effects at all, then
how did the theory of epiphenomenalism come to be shared beyond the
conscious mind that first conceived of it? Wouldn't such a theory
necessarily be private and unsharable if consciousness has no effects?

Jason

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