On 3/8/2015 12:17 PM, John Mikes wrote:
Brent,
do you (or the authors) really think Ccness - as we use the term - a (deeply) HUMAN (or 'thinking' animal?) phenomenon? Are we so special?

No. I think we are special only in our development of language that has given us the ability to think more abstractly than other animals. I see Graziano's theory as pointing to how we might make autonomous machines conscious and why it would be advantageous to do so. I certainly doesn't imply humans are unique. In fact it implies that there may be "higher" levels of consciousness realized by merging the consciousness of people and machines; which is contrary to Bruno's idea that consciousness is logically a binary property.

Brent
"We are the Dyslexic of Borg. Futility is persistent. Your ass will be 
laminated."

I came to believe that 'everything' (list, or not) is a wider connectivity than what we call 'living' (you may include plants as well) and is phenomena of the complexity total we call "Nature" (or: existence). If we take such wider stance, my speculations arrived at a complex interconnectedness based upon 'relations' all over. (No specifics what to call a relation - or how to respond to them).
Those relations interplay with whatever 'happens' with/out our knowledge.
I do not find it the ultimate (highest) format of Nature when we humans THINK.
Granted: we have no indication to go further than such.
HUMAN Ccness a  'subchapter"?

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