On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 6:19 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 3/9/2015 1:00 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
> The fact that non-materialistic theories of mind are not falsifiable does
> not imply that materialistic theories of mind are.
>
>
> Materialistic theories are generally falsifiable (at least in principle)
>

As I argued with John, I don't accept that most scientific theories are
materialistic at all, I think they are agnostic on that issue. The only
materialistic theories I know are all non-falsifiable from the 3p, and most
also not from the 1p.


> because "matter" is defined to be something we have shared experience of.
> So it provides a shared basis for experiment.  The difficulty with testing
> theories of consciousness is that we can only agree on perceived behavior,
> e.g. Turing tests.
>

I think we disagree on what materialism means. I agree with the definition
on Wikipedia:

"Materialism is a form of philosophical monism which holds that matter is
the fundamental substance in nature, and that all phenomena, including
mental phenomena and consciousness, are the result of material
interactions."

Non-materialism does not deny shared experience, nor does it deny that I am
feeling keys click under my fingers.

Telmo.


>
> Brent
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