> On 30 Mar 2015, at 11:19 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 30 March 2015 at 08:39, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 3/29/2015 3:55 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>>> Please! "Hunter Gatherers" - "warriors" is a boys' club term for it.
>>>
>>> I can accept that the term "warrior" glorifies something nasty, but what
>>> term to use? "Hunter Gatherer" is not what I mean.
But that's what you are. You go to the supermarket, don't you?
>>> I refer to the people who directly confront other groups in battles to the
>>> death.
Them? They're just idiot warmongers like the brutes they are confronting. Takes
one to know one. As soon as you have "my tribe" you also unfortunately have
"not in my tribe". Besides, some of them only may be warriors. Most are likely
twelve pound weaklings who were hit over the head in the middle of the night
and told they had this brilliant career ahead of them in the armed forces.
Isn't that how you raise an army?
>>> Men are naturally more suited for this sort of thing due to endocrine
>>> system differences, that leads to bigger bodies, more muscles and more
>>> aggression.
This last being in fact the dominant characteristic which means it should come
at the head of your list. Men are sacks of testosterone and adrenalin. Add to
that the limited reach of human perception and you can find yourself in a
pitched battle at the drop of a hat, particularly where the tension is already
high.
One of the job requirements for joining ISIS is that you are able to squirt
testosterone out of one ear and adrenalin out the other. What real warriors
these guys are!!!
>>
>> I think it's silly to say "warrior" glorifies something nasty.
Yet there may be good reasons for sending up the concept as I am doing. I mean,
warriors can be good boys or bad boys. I take it that there are three kinds of
warriors: good, bad and imbecilic. These are tribes too and cut across the
other tribal, clan lines. You might be a lowly footsoldier, though a good and
trusted son of the Empire while your commanding officer is a rapist and a
murdering despot that everyone would prefer to see deposed.
I also take it that the badder the boy, the better the warrior. Kind of
axiomatic. All the guys who beat me up in the playground in Primary school
later on in life became cops! Go figure. Warriors do a dirty job - they're like
cleaners. They do what you and I are simply not tooled-up well enough to do
ourselves. Besides I can't squirt anything out of my ears. When some thug comes
into my shop and points a gun at my head and I blow him away, that makes me a
warrior, right? But he was a warrior too, see: it was on his teeshirt; he saw
himself as fighting for some cause, so he is now a martyr.
>> That's a politically correct judgement looking back at a different era
>> through current glasses.
I am looking at the present era. The concept of "warrior" has never evolved in
meaning. Today's warriors are grunts doing a dirty job just as they always did.
>> Having good warriors was sometimes the difference between survival and
>> extinction.
That's right. And when the war is over, the warriors get together to form a
junta which kicks out the useless government that led to the conflict in the
first place and they then install a military dictatorship. Once a warrior
always a warrior. "The way of the warrior" in fact. You never give up on power.
Kim
>> Is what the men did in holding Bastogne "nasty"?
They were attacked. I'm sure they did many nasty things in the course of
defending it. Get over being nasty already. Warriors are nasty bastards.
K
>
> Absolutely. If all men were cooperative then a single defector could rule the
> world, or at least make out like a bandit. Hence we have what I think is
> called a Nash equilibrium?
>
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