On 3/29/2015 6:35 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 30 Mar 2015, at 11:19 am, LizR <[email protected]
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On 30 March 2015 at 08:39, meekerdb <[email protected]
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On 3/29/2015 3:55 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Please! "Hunter Gatherers" - "warriors" is a boys' club term for it.
I can accept that the term "warrior" glorifies something nasty, but what
term to
use? "Hunter Gatherer" is not what I mean.
But that's what you are. You go to the supermarket, don't you?
I refer to the people who directly confront other groups in battles to the
death.
Them? They're just idiot warmongers like the brutes they are confronting. Takes one to
know one. As soon as you have "my tribe" you also unfortunately have "not in my tribe".
Besides, some of them only may be warriors. Most are likely twelve pound weaklings who
were hit over the head in the middle of the night and told they had this brilliant
career ahead of them in the armed forces.
Isn't that how you raise an army?
Or you promise that they'll be in on creation of a wonderful new world order and it will
be a glorious adventure.
Men are naturally more suited for this sort of thing due to endocrine system
differences, that leads to bigger bodies, more muscles and more aggression.
This last being in fact the dominant characteristic which means it should come at the
head of your list. Men are sacks of testosterone and adrenalin. Add to that the limited
reach of human perception and you can find yourself in a pitched battle at the drop of a
hat, particularly where the tension is already high.
You must still be in grade school. That's the last time I remember having a
fist fight.
One of the job requirements for joining ISIS is that you are able to squirt testosterone
out of one ear and adrenalin out the other. What real warriors these guys are!!!
I wonder how all those girls from the UK manage to join? The core of ISIS is all the
Sunni officers that were throw out of the Iraqi army by Bremer - another of the stupid
moves by the Bush administration.
I think it's silly to say "warrior" glorifies something nasty.
Yet there may be good reasons for sending up the concept as I am doing. I mean, warriors
can be good boys or bad boys. I take it that there are three kinds of warriors: good,
bad and imbecilic. These are tribes too and cut across the other tribal, clan lines. You
might be a lowly footsoldier, though a good and trusted son of the Empire while your
commanding officer is a rapist and a murdering despot that everyone would prefer to see
deposed.
I also take it that the badder the boy, the better the warrior. Kind of axiomatic. All
the guys who beat me up in the playground in Primary school later on in life became
cops! Go figure. Warriors do a dirty job - they're like cleaners. They do what you and I
are simply not tooled-up well enough to do ourselves. Besides I can't squirt anything
out of my ears. When some thug comes into my shop and points a gun at my head and I blow
him away, that makes me a warrior, right? But he was a warrior too, see: it was on his
teeshirt; he saw himself as fighting for some cause, so he is now a martyr.
That's a politically correct judgement looking back at a different era
through
current glasses.
I am looking at the present era. The concept of "warrior" has never evolved in meaning.
Today's warriors are grunts doing a dirty job just as they always did.
Fighting a war is always a dirty job.
Having good warriors was sometimes the difference between survival and
extinction.
That's right. And when the war is over, the warriors get together to form a junta which
kicks out the useless government that led to the conflict in the first place and they
then install a military dictatorship.
WW2 was won by the UK, US, USSR, Canada - which one installed a junta? I believe "junta"
is a South American word. How many South American nations have won a war?
Once a warrior always a warrior. "The way of the warrior" in fact. You never give up on
power.
Kim
Is what the men did in holding Bastogne "nasty"?
They were attacked. I'm sure they did many nasty things in the course of defending it.
Get over being nasty already. Warriors are nasty bastards.
They killed people - that's what you do in war. Warriors are just people who fight in
wars. How easily you dehumanize people - and you're not even in a war, just a mailing list.
Brent
"There is no such source and cause of strife, quarrel, fights, malignant opposition,
persecution, and war, and all evil in the state as religion. Let it once enter our civil
affairs, our government would soon be destroyed. Let it once enter our common schools,
they would be destroyed . . . Those who made our Constitution saw this, and used the most
apt and comprehensive language in it to prevent such a catastrophe.²"
-- Justice H.S. Orton of the Supreme Court of Wisconsin, concurring opinion in Weiss v.
the District Board, decided on March 18, 1890, ruling bible readings and devotionals in
public schools unconstitutional
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