Liz and Friends of Nearer Geography: I wrote so many times and nobody reflected so far. WHY is 2 + 2 = 4 if there is a VALID concept like RANDOM? Why not 2 + 2 = -----175,834? or even '1'? (Without changing the game). I deny random, it would eliminate all our technology, science, physics, etc. etc. My non-IndoEuropean mother tongue has no 'random, we use the translation of the German "exbeliebig" (~ from what we like??) - well I don't "LIKE" it, so I have no random?????
Russell wrote more than a decade ago: 'yes', it seems there should be a 'relative random' - but nothing further from him. Nor anybody else. Randomly yours (no random qgnosticism, however) John Mikes On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 8:02 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 23 Apr 2015, at 08:37, meekerdb wrote: >> >> 2+2=1 in mod 3 arithmetic. If you change the game you change what can be >> proven. You can't keep the old version and assume its proofs apply to the >> new game. >> >> But you haven't changed the game. 2+2=4, still, in normal arithmetic, and > unless you can change THAT you are still in the same "game". (All you've > done is to discover that there's more to the game than you originally > thought.) > > I'm a little disappointed. Although I'm of the opinion that maths isn't > made up (based on its unreasonable effectiveness in the physical sciences) > I still expected a slightly more sophisticated level of argument. If that's > the type of argument that supposedly shows maths is made up, it doesn't > look like physicists need fear that the mathematical rug they've been > relying on for the last 300 years will be pulled out from beneath them > anytime soon. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

