Liz and Friends of Nearer Geography: I wrote so many times and nobody reflected so far. WHY is 2 + 2 = 4 if there is a VALID concept like RANDOM? Why not 2 + 2 = -----175,834? or even '1'? (Without changing the game). I deny random, it would eliminate all our technology, science, physics, etc. etc. My non-IndoEuropean mother tongue has no 'random, we use the translation of the German "exbeliebig" (~ from what we like??) - well I don't "LIKE" it, so I have no random?????
Russell wrote more than a decade ago: 'yes', it seems there should be a 'relative random' - but nothing further from him. Nor anybody else. Randomly yours (no random qgnosticism, however) John Mikes On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 8:02 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 23 Apr 2015, at 08:37, meekerdb wrote: >> >> 2+2=1 in mod 3 arithmetic. If you change the game you change what can be >> proven. You can't keep the old version and assume its proofs apply to the >> new game. >> >> But you haven't changed the game. 2+2=4, still, in normal arithmetic, and > unless you can change THAT you are still in the same "game". (All you've > done is to discover that there's more to the game than you originally > thought.) > > I'm a little disappointed. Although I'm of the opinion that maths isn't > made up (based on its unreasonable effectiveness in the physical sciences) > I still expected a slightly more sophisticated level of argument. If that's > the type of argument that supposedly shows maths is made up, it doesn't > look like physicists need fear that the mathematical rug they've been > relying on for the last 300 years will be pulled out from beneath them > anytime soon. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
