On 10 May 2015 at 12:08, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, May 9, 2015 Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> > including abstract systems. It is an abstract concept after all.
>>
>
> No it is not! Computation is a physical process just like any other that
> uses energy, takes time, and creates entropy.
>
> Well this is the so-called Aristotle-Plato thing again, isn't it? Since
computation is allegedly implied by number theory, claiming it isn't an
abstract process is the same as denying the objective existence to number
theory (or, in an nutshell, denying that 2+2=4 independently of anyone
knowing that it does).

To prove your point you need to explain why maths is so "unreasonably
effective in the physical sciences", something I've long been hoping
someone will do so I can stop wasting time worrying about whether I may be
just a bunch of equations.

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