On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:21 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 15 May 2015 at 21:38, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:07 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13 May 2015 at 21:30, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Clouds, especially high clouds have some effect.  They reflect visible
>>>>> bands back to space and they also absorb and reemit IR.  Low clouds tend 
>>>>> to
>>>>> increase heat load because they reflect in the day, but they insulate day
>>>>> and night.  It's not magic, it's just calculation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course, I am not suggesting it's anything else.
>>>> My question is about complex interactions between these several
>>>> phenomena. Does a change in the composition of the atmosphere affect cloud
>>>> formation? In what ways? Does temperature?
>>>>
>>>> Is the idea that we shouldn't do anything because we haven't got a
>>> perfect model of the atmosphere?
>>>
>>
>> Is it unreasonable to ask for evidence and serious risk analysis before
>> messing with the energy supply chain that keeps 7 billion people alive?
>>
>
> Of course it isn't. Such risk analysis has been done, and it appears
> around 97% of the most competent people available in the field think the
> risks caused by the rising CO2 levels are more dangerous than the risks of
> doing nothing about them.
>

Ok, I wouldn't be surprised if you are right. I only claim ignorance, and
ask questions when something looks fishy. I also care about science more
than anything else, so arguments around what "97% of the most competent
people" think mean nothing to me. For me, that is politician speak.
Consensus are easy to manufacture, even in science. I care about correct
predictions and a good understanding of the mechanisms. What makes these
people so competent? Have they created models that led to correct
predictions?

This is all just intellectual curiosity anyway. My opinion on the matter
has no importance whatsoever. I don't even vote.



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