On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 , meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>> It's very relevant if you want to know what is a simplified
> approximation of what. And we both agree that a electronic computer is
> vastly more complex than it's logical schematic, so why can we make a
> working model of the complex thing but not make a working model of the
> simple thing when usually it's easier to make a simple thing than a complex
> thing? The only answer that comes to mind is that particular simplified
> approximation is just too simplified and just too approximate to actually
> do anything. That simplification must be missing something important,
> matter that obeys the laws of physics.



> > The trouble with this argument is that the laws of physics are
> mathematical abstractions.
>

Mathematicians are always saying that mathematics is a language, but what
would be the consequences if that were really true? The best way known to
describe the laws of physics is to write then in the language of
mathematics, but a language is not the thing the language is describing. A
book about Napoleon may be written in the English Language, but the English
Language is not Napoleon and mathematics may not be the physical universe.


Or maybe it is. As I've said many times I'm playing devil's advocate here,
maybe mathematics really is more fundamental than physics but if it is it
has not been proven.

  John K Clark

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