On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > > Your misusing the grammar and treating it as fact. "The first-person > perspective" doesn't imply there is only one person; it's just a label for > a certain kind of perspective. >
Bruno and others continually ask, "what city will the Helsinki Man see from *THE* first person perspective?" when I answer "Moscow and Washington" they always respond the same way "that's impossible, *HE* can't see 2 cities at the same time". But if "he" means the guys who remember being the Helsinki Man (something we both agreed to) why can't "he" see 2 cities at the same time? At this point Bruno always regurgitates the same stale canned response "you confuse the 1p and the 3p" as if that clears up everything. So Brent, when Bruno talks about "*HE*" or "*THE* first person perspective" what the hell is Bruno talking about? A conscious being can look into the past and always see one and only one sequence of previous selves that define who he is today, but there is no corresponding unique path into the future, many things could happen and if Everett was right do happen; in fact to a conscious being that's the difference between the past and the future, and the point where that change occurs is the present. Bruno is trying to define himself by looking to the future but that's like pushing on a string, it doesn't work. > > > The diary is just a form of memory that can be objectively verified. > I know, and that's why the entire diary business is just a silly pointless complication to an already silly thought experiment; the validity of memory was never a point of contention, at least not by me. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

