On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:43 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Terren Suydam <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ​> ​
>> the step 3 argument I and others are making is a lot easier to defend
>> than your position,
>>
>
> ​It's very easy to defend as long as lots and lots of personal pronouns
> are used, they're a wonderful dumping ground for  sloppy thinking.​
>
>
>
>> ​>>  ​
>>> ​Case #1: ​Nobody, absolutely nobody can observe more than one Terren
>>> Suydam, not even Terren Suydam.
>>> Case #2: Everybody, absolutely everybody can observe an unlimited number
>>> of Terren Suydams, including Terren Suydam.
>>> Coherently  explain how these 2 cases are equivalent and Terren Suydam
>>> has won the argument and John Clark will change John Clark's ideas on the
>>> subject.
>>>
>>
>
> ​> ​
>> I've already agreed that the two scenarios are *not* equivalent from the
>> third-person perspective, but they *are* equivalent from the
>> first-person perspective.
>>
>
> ​In case #1 ​
> Terren Suydam
> ​ can find only one person who has the right to be called ​
> Terren Suydam
> ​, in case #2 ​
>  Terren Suydam
> ​ can find an unlimited number of people ​who have an equal right to be
> called
> Terren Suydam
> ​. How are these 2 cases equivalent to  ​
> Terren Suydam
> ​? And if that isn't "
> the first-person perspective
> ​" what is?
>

I don't see how you can feel entitled to berate people about the use of
personal pronouns if you are confused on the difference between the
first-person perspective, and descriptions of the first-person perspective.

If you're interested in my explanation, go back and find it, which I've
given more than once. Please do some of the work here.

Terren


> ​
>   John K Clark​
>
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