On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 2015-10-04 15:26 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 1:26 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> As the simulation runs at the speed of light, we'd have to drive very >>> fast and randomly, indeed. >> >> >> Ok, but suppose that the simulation has limited resources and only >> computes some sphere around the current part of the universe you're >> observing. Then it might do some predictive analysis to pre-compute likely >> future states. Driving randomly would be an attempt to fuck with that >> algorithm. >> > > That presupose you're not part yourself of the algorithm... so where is > your consciousness computed ? > Well, I guess this would have to be a Matrix-like scenario. You are just alive in some other reality but have your nervous system hijacked so that inputs/outputs to through the simulation. Give me a break, I was 18 and heart-broken :) > If you're computed along everything else... you can't escape it, as from > the pov of what is computing, you don't do something unpredicted, because > that would mean you're doing something the algorithm has not computed... > but it's a plain contradiction with the premises which is you're computed > by it. > Yes, if you are a native of the simulation what you say follows. But you can imagine convoluted scenarios like the one above, more useful for sci-fi than real science. Telmo. > > Quentin > > >> Of course this would have to be a scenario where our perception channels >> are hijacked but our cognition is performed in the real world. If Our >> cognition is part of the simulation, it can just take more >> outside-the-simulation time to compute the next simulation moment and the >> inhabitants of the simulation won't notice. >> >> >>> It is a simulation, or rather, a computation, such as a statistical >>> mechanics analysis. The boot up and power on and self test, was the Big >>> Bang. >> >> >> My view is that the big bang is the simplest possible state, so it's the >> common ancestor of all possible states, so if you look far enough in time >> your are bound to observe it. My crazy hypothesis is that the instant of >> the big bang is shared by all universes and belongs to all histories. >> >> >>> here's another completely, off the wall, point of view. The challenge is >>> not merely, to discover what is true, but to discover what is true, and >>> then use this against despair. >> >> >> I agree. >> >> >>> Consider this a super-goal, perhaps one that is best resolved by >>> hypercomputing. This utilizes both the cerebrum and the amygdala, to >>> achieve this goal. We use the cerebrum to discover, we use the amygdala to >>> decide when we are pleased with the result. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> >>> To: everything-list <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2015 6:28 am >>> Subject: Re: Mandela effect? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 9:05 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Never heard of it before. >>>> >>>> http://www.skeptic.com/insight/the-mandela-effect/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> I have heard about it, and found it silly (I agree with the link and >>> with what Bruno said). >>> >>> It is fun to see how the Internet enables kids to explore weird ideas >>> though: >>> https://www.reddit.com/r/mandelaeffect >>> >>> I remember when me and a friend, after failing to impress some girls at >>> a bar, started philosophizing about the nature of reality. We came up with >>> the sort of ideas that later became popular in the Matrix (and were popular >>> before in smaller circles, of course), and decided to test the simulation. >>> Our hypothesis was that, if we started driving fast and always choosing a >>> random path, we would eventually break the simulation's ability to "keep >>> up". It didn't work, but these days we could have started an Internet >>> movement. >>> >>> Best, >>> Telmo. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Brent >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. 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