On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]>
wrote:

​> ​
> You've challenged Bruno many times to perform a difficult computation
> using his Platonic computer.
>

​Forget difficult, I've challenged Bruno to perform ANY computation with
ANY
Platonic computer
​ he can find, but he can't add 2 and 2 on ANY Platonic computer, nor can
anybody else.


> ​> ​
> Well, that computation is occurring in front of you now in the thermal
> motion of the atoms in your desk, which under an appropriate interpretation
> are implementing a Turing machine.
>

​The physical wooden desk in front of me is undoubtedly making calculations
but it's too complicated and convoluted for me to understand; I don't know
the language to ask it questions nor do I know how to read its answers.
However there is an object on top of that desk that is just as physical as
the desk, it's made by the Apple Corporation and unlike the desk I do know
the language to ask it questions and the language to read its answers.  ​


​> ​
> But you and Bruno don't have that appropriate interpretation,
>

​The difference is I have the
 appropriate interpretation
​ for **some** physical computers, Bruno has the ​
appropriate interpretation
​ for **no** Platonic computer nor does anybody else.​

  John K Clark



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