Many bangs, many universes-sequential, (Turok and Steinhart and Hindus), many 
parallel universes (Hugh Everett & DC Comics). What about real proof? Well, I a 
willing for our species to eventualy Look for evidence of all this crazy stuff, 
however our economy and technology appear way to insufficient to even start a 
search, even in a 'modest' way. For example, The people of the Favillas in 
Brazil did not build their own CERN particle accelaraor, but the EU did, etc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 10, 2016 9:41 pm
Subject: Re: Cryonics punched cards and the brain


    
    
    
On 2/10/2016 5:50 PM, John Clark wrote:
    
    
      
        
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016             Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
        
        
          

            
              
                  
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                Explanations can be circular and if it's a big enough           
     circle that, somewhere around it, X is explained in                terms 
of Y and Y is something you understand then it's a                virtuous 
circle.
            
            

            
            
              
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              herein                
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                lie dragons                
​                  . 
                I go to a local bookstore and buy a copy of                
Shakespeare's plays.                
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                I get in my time machine and go back to 1580 and give           
     the book to a illiterate 16 year old boy named William                
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                Shakespeare. Young William                
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                publishes                
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                the plays and soon                
​                  they ​
                become enormously popular spreading throughout                
​                  t​
                he world and the centuries eventually ending up at my           
     local bookstore. Where did the information in                
​                  that​
                
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                book come from? Who wrote the plays?
            
          
        
      
    
    
    First, that's a causal loop.  Not all explanations are in terms of    
causes.  Second, there's no evidence that time-like loops are    possible.  
Third, there's a lot of information in the sense you use    it, that was not 
there at the big bang - so where did it come from?
    
    Brent
  
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