On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> If it's physical then if it is of a large enough magnitude it can impact >> one of the senses without any intermediary. > > > > > And how you define "senses"? > And now ladies and gentlemen it's time to play the definitions game ! Tell me how you define "define". Then tell me how you define "define "define"". Sorry I don't want to play that game, instead I'll give you something much MUCH better than definitions, I will give you examples; sight, hearing, touch, smell and taste. >> >> That's why a number like a billion is not physical, it has a large >> magnitude but a billion of something is needed to effect the senses, a >> billion alone can't do anything. A number is a idea, and a idea needs a >> physical brain to think it. > > > > > > You accept computationalism, or digital mechanism. > Yes, I accept that generic matter and the laws of physics can be used to make a arbitrarily large number of copies of you that are indistinguishable from the original you both objectively and more importantly subjectively. > > > You should understand that a number can get sense only relatively to a > universal number processing it. > A numbers can't process another number without a intermediary. Without matter that obeys the laws of physics a number can't do diddly squat. If you' really think I'm wrong then go to Silicon Valley and start a company on this new revolutionary idea; and I'd bet money none of the companies already there are going to try to steal your idea. > > I use the standard definition of Gödel for the 3p-self, and thanks to > incompleteness I can use the theatetical variant of it for the 1p-self, > although I get nuances between justifiable, knowable, observable, and > sensible, which are variate aspect of the first person points of view. The > math is the standard theory of self-reference. textbook: > Textbooks don't have a 1p or a 3p and don't go peepee. > > > and the 3p you is the unique 3p diary > I've never understood this obsession of yours with diaries ! The diary is duplicated just like the person so what does the diary tell us that the person's testimony does not? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
