In the fictional realm of art, where everything is a lie and the winning theory is the yummiest, all these things: cleopatra personhood intertwinedity river of thought are easily fusionated by some guy and girl playing Joni songs for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrBilBQ1C54 (Apologies if the copyright cops block this wherever you are, in which case: ignore this post.) Not that anybody knows what they're doing or what any of those things are... but we still dare to guess about those rather large things fusioning and place the notes accordingly. Even with the probability of making fools of ourselves... and who cares? We could be the large sort of kind fool, and what's so terrible about that? PGC On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > On 7/19/2016 12:28 AM, Bruce wrote: > >> Abandoning the transitivity of identity is difficult in general because >> it is precisely that transitivity that gives us a reliable notion of the >> continuity of personhood through time. The things that might seem to >> violate transitivity in duplication (copies in separate locations, etc, >> that is, non-psychological differences), also would give violations of >> transitivity relating copies of the same person at different times and >> places. We need a principled account of exactly what leads to the violation >> of transitivity in one case and not in the other. >> > > I think this is looking at the problem the wrong way; it's trying to fit > the world to a word. It's not transitivity that gives us a reliable notion > of the continuity of personhood. We already had the notion of continuity > and we invented the concept of transitivity (actually in other contexts) > and applied it to personhood. There's no reason we should not recognize > personhood as having several empirical bases: memories, similarity of > bodies, continuity of location,... Personhood is not some logical > attribute that must have a sharp mathematical definition, as I tried to > illustrate by the problem of Eve. > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/haloUTgJfiQ/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.