On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:32 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> it is not so clear to me that it has no intelligence. It >> leads to better and better designs, > > > If Evolution has intelligence it sure doesn't have much, despite the > resources of the entire planet at its disposal Evolution was incredibly slow > and sloppy in getting its work done; but it was the only way complex things > could get made until it finally invented brains after 3 billion years of > screwing around. > >> >> > >> my point is that what makes this a "bad idea" is our own >> evolutionary context. Why is it a bad idea exactly? It becomes >> >> tautological. It is a bad idea because it hurts your ability to pursue >> goals dictated by evolution. > > > The only goal dictated by Evolution is a vague command to figure out a way > to get your genes into the next generation, and just like the vague laws > that humans make that leaves plenty of room for interpretation, unintended > consequences, and loopholes. > >> >> > >> Outside of evolution, why would an entity >> not choose the easy way out? > > > Any intelligence regardless of if was produced by Evolution or by human > engineers or even by God would have a constantly shifting goal structure > depending on environmental circumstances. Even your iPhone has, in a sense, > a goal to continue working, so personal survival would certainly be a goal > for any brain even if it isn't guaranteed the permanent #1 position. Just > like with people I expect that with a AI survival would usually, although > not always, take the #1 slot. But for some some AIs just like with some > people, the mindless pursuit pleasure could be #1 , but I don't see why that > would be more common in a AI than it is in a person unless the electronic > version is far more powerful and addictive than the chemical we call crack. > But could the electronic version really be that much more powerful and > additive? I don't know, maybe it's possible. If it is then that explains the > Fermi Paradox. > > Although we're using different language I think we may agree more than we > disagree,
Indeed. Telmo. > > John K Clark > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
