Sounds scienficationally wonderful, even though it is science. Dark Life! Ah! How about interstellar vampires? Maybe dark matter life is predominant in the cosmos which is why we have trouble detecting? Bio-dark matter monsters sound like great menace from beyond the stars. Maybe dark matter spacecraft sail at translumenal speeds on speedways of dark energy. Do I feel it really exists as such? ........
-----Original Message----- From: medinuclear <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Nov 12, 2016 5:37 pm Subject: Re: Cpies and Doppelgangers [Philip Benjamin] Implications of Bio Dark-Matter Chemistry Publications listed elsewhere Laws of chemistry are universal andinvariable and applicable to atomic dark matter also. So are the effects under analogous conditions. Animal and vegetablelife (genetics) have extensive influence over chemistries. They suspend them,change them or traverse them to produce an innumerable number of productsessential for life and adapted to the purpose of survival. Some of theseprocesses are known and many often unknown and beyond laboratory capabilities. Bio Dark Matter Chemistry: Light Matter + Chemistry--> Perishable Body. Dark Matter + Dark Chem. --> Durable Invisible Body. Dark/Light Chem. Bond Dissociation--> Dissonance, Disease, Death "Bio Dark-Matter Chemistry", InternationalJournal of Current Research and Reviews Vol 4 issue 20, 2012. ISSN: 0975-5241 "Spiritual Body or Physical Spirit? BioDark-Matter Chemistry & Your Invisible Doppelganger". Sunbury Press,PA. February 2013. ISBN: 978-1-62006-182-4 http://biodarkmatter.webs.com Philip Benjamin PhD MSc MA Discovermagazine quotes a Harvard theoretical physicist positing dark-life fromdark-matter. http://discovermagazine.com/2013/julyaug/21-the-possible-parallel-universe-of-dark-matter Researchgatequotes physicist G. K. Ustinova of Rusian Academy of Scienceindicating that bio dark-matter chemistry offers a new fruitfuldirection of investigation in this enigmatic field.(https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_spirit_our_energy_Is_spirit_dark_energy). http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2009/sep/21/is-dark-matter-mostly-dark-atoms 1. DavidKaplan et al (Johns Hopkins U) conclude from"new observational and experimental data" that dark matterexists as compositeparticles – atoms of dark protons and dark electronsthat are acted on by [dark photons]the dark-matter equivalent of the electromagnetic force". This isbased on the data of Neal Weiner and David Tucker-Smith in 2001, 2. "Daniel Hooper,an astrophysicist at Fermilab in the US, affirms that the atomic dark-mattermodel is really viable and that all the lingering doubts "are resolvedfairly easily." 3.Christopher Wells (Kaplan's colleague)sees here the "additional benefit of bringing dark matter more into linewith the ordinary matter that we are familiar with". Note: They claim that "dark hydrogen atoms couldbind to form hydrogen molecules and that the formation of these molecules couldthen lead to the creation of "dark stars " or other compact objects and add that theinteraction of dark photons with ordinary photons could lead to emission linesin the spectra of cosmic gamma rays". Implications of Dark-matter Chemistry 1. Laws of chemistry are the same universally in light-matter and dark-matter(only ab initio computational chemistries). 2. Dark-matter chemistry/geneticsbegins at the moment of conceptionjust as light-matter chemistry/genetics leading to an invisibledoppelganger identical/eidetic to the visible body at all stages of humandevelopment (en-dark-body-ment, endarkbodiment). 3. Dark-matter body may be invisible to electromagnetic toolsincluding the senses in their normal state of existence. 4. Dark and light chemical bonds have similar properties, interact witheach other, rotate, vibrate, oscillate, have reciprocal motion, stretch,contract, have resonance structures, associate, dissociate, bend and break.These cause weak changes in energetics resulting in emission of weak photonsknown as biophotons. The sudden burst of biophotons at the moment of death ofplant and animal cells results from the breaking of the coupling forces.OBE/NDE phenomena depend on the extent of “bond-dissociation”. 5. Dark-matter bodies may benon-entropic, enduring for ever 6. Enduring dark-bodies need no reproductive capabilities, hence are asexual 7. Enduring Dark-matter beings may exist and may be visible as an eeriebiophotonic manifestation at appropriate excited energystates by internal or external mechanisms . 8. Dark-matter beings can indwell/permeate lightmatter bodies, possessing and exhibiting any uncanny characteristic theymay have. 9. Biophotonemission rates differing by an order ofmagnitude across the taxa may be explained from the taxon-dependent weakchanges in energetics resulting from interactions of light/dark chemical bonds. Dark matter bodies may be incomplete and less stable inanimals and plants Different biophoton emission rates across the taxa. That indicates greater reactivity (or instability)at the source of emission; plant cells emit 10 times more than human/sq.in/pers. Greater is the instability, greater the emission rate. 10.In an early termination of pregnancy in humans, a durable and precocial bio dark-matter twin,co-created at the moment of conception, can survive the altricial light-matter twin. When decoupled at death the bio dark-matter body willbe relatively at a negative energy state by -E = mC^2 where m is thedead body mass. That will be the magnitude of the threshold externalenergy needed to raise the bio dark matter body to any functional state(Physical resurrection for example). Best regards Philip Benjamin On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 1:31:39 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: On 6 October 2015 at 16:54, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: On 6/10/2015 3:59 pm, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 6 Oct 2015, at 11:48 AM, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: I agree that duality is a bad idea. Local copies are one thing. Remote copies with no possible connection are another. I do not know what it means to say that such things reproduce the same consciousness. That is a claim that can never be checked, and has no possible consequences. So Occam's razor comes into play. Do you doubt that mental states can be duplicated by duplicating the physical configuration of a brain? Do you think the duplication would work if information is transmitted from original to copy but not if the copy was made without such information, even though the physical configurations are exactly the same? That would imply that two brains could be exactly the same physically but differ mentally, which contradicts the physical supervenience thesis. This would be a dualist position. It is possible that you might be able to make copies -- you certainly can for AI. A copy means that information from the original was used to construct the copy. Where I use "copy" you might use a different word. Let's define "doppelganger" as something which resembles the original arbitrarily closely but was not constructed using information from the original, while a "copy" is the same except constructed using information from the original. Using these definitions, are you saying that if you are replaced by a copy you will survive, whereas if you are replaced by a doppelganger you will not? If there are, by chance, other persons who happen to have, instantaneously, the same brain configuration as you do, then there are simply two people who share a momentary psychological similarity. Since the environments are different, these two individuals will have had different histories, and will rapidly diverge. So calling one the continuation of the other is a bit arbitrary -- neither is a continuation of anything other than themselves. If the similarity is such that the universes are identical, as well as chance brain states, then it may take a little longer for the divergence, but you still always have two separate individuals with only chance similarities. Neither is a "copy" of the other. You will diverge from whatever physical and mental state you were headed towards if there is a small environmental change, but this does not kill you. All future versions of yourself branching out from the present are valid. So I am saying that two brains could be the same physically, and mentally, but still be different people. There is no duality here. The physical supervenience thesis requires that physical and mental processes track each other one-for-one. But similar mental states do not mean identical persons. If two brains are physically and mentally the same then they are at that point the same person, but if they diverge they are different people from then on. This is a consequence of the theory of personal identity. If you have a tie for closest continuer, you have created two new persons. And it does not matter what these persons think, or what conclusion they reach by introspection. Physical factors are more important in such cases than psychological factors. "Closest Continuer" is not *the* theory of personal identity, it is *a* theory. One trouble with the idea of copies of you in other parts of the multiverse is that most such copies will not be identical -- they may pass through the same conscious state at a particular moment, but because they are in different environments, they will immediately diverge. The only sensible interpretation of such a situation is that there are other independent beings who are similar to you in some ways. That is the case anyway, and we do not necessarily believe in panpsychism. If there are identical copies, then they necessarily exist in identical environments, and anything that happens to you will also happen to them. So they do not provide a means for your consciousness to continue -- if you die, your identical copy also dies. Copies that start off identical diverging does not present a problem. There is a chance that you will experience any of the possible worlds branching from your present one, and if you die at one location you will only experience the worlds where copies of you survive. No *you* won't. Other persons who resemble you to a greater or lesser extent might. But if there is another identical with you, they necessarily die when you do. Quantum suicide is a no-brainer! Recall that in quantum many worlds, the different worlds are different, by construction. So continuations in the different worlds are always different - they get different results from the quantum experiment. If you are to be killed if a radioisotope decays, then one version of you is killed, and the other version is not. You survive as the version that is not killed. This is equivalent to being destructively copied into the world where the isotope does not decay. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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