On 12 Dec 2016, at 19:31, Brent Meeker wrote:



On 12/12/2016 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

it's just like seeing the storm as anger of the sky-god. People experience anger, so they think they have understood the storm. They don't understand fluid dynamics (at least until very recently).

I recall that such a type of belief does not work. The whole physics prediction power is based on an identity link which does not work.

It works pretty damn well in predicting storms.

Only by assuming non-computationalism, but then it is contradicted with evolution theory, biology. It works in practice, but is flawed at the fundamental level. I am not saying that this or that physics theory is not working in practice, I am saying that physicalism is wrong with mechanism/rationalism. To make physics coherent with physicalism, you need to introduce actual infinities in both mind and matter, and a univocal link between, which, at the level of metaphysics or theology becomes as much invalid than an evocation to God, which makes no sense in any theory, even theology.




And more importantly it can predict not-storms as well - unlike some theories that predict everything.

A theory which predicts everything can be said inconsistent and have zero interest, we agree. Thankfully, incompleteness saves Mechanism from predicting everything. On the contrary it predicts many-worlds and quantum logic. (in a large sense of "worlds", as they are only computational histories).

Bruno







Brent

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