On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:38 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/8/2016 3:31 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/8/2016 3:29 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:26 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/5/2016 1:31 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/4/2016 10:45 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and by doing so you drag in a lot of baggage.  There was a group of
>>>>>>> atheists in the Dallas area which for a time formed a church and
>>>>>>> claimed
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be a religion for tax purposes.  They defined "God" to be whatever
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> in the world.  The IRS disallowed their claim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I assume that evoking the American IRS as a a scholarly authority on
>>>>>> such a matter is a joke, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But they are as good an authority as any.  Unlike theologians they have
>>>>> to
>>>>> make decisions that have real consequences - not just mix word salad.
>>>>
>>>> But this is not a discussion about theology, it's a discussion about
>>>> the historical and cultural variations of concepts of god -- it falls
>>>> under anthropology and history.
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, tell me about a historical or cultural variation in which "god"
>>> doesn't
>>> not refer to a person/agent.
>>
>> Anything pantheistic. Taoism, several gnostic cults, certain native
>> Americans I think, sufi mysticism, certain denominations of modern
>> judaism... Ah and the force in Star Wars.
>
>
> But they don't use the word "god".  It's an abuse of language it say that
> "god" means "whatever one's religion worships".  Paul Tillich tried that
> maneuver in the '60s.  He said "god" meant whatever one valued most: money,
> fame, power,...  If you cut a word lose from common usage then, as the
> Caterpillar said to Alice, you can make it mean anything you want.

So you are saying that "god" is reserved for judaic-christian style
deities. Given that those were invented in the Middle East, and that
they didn't speak English there at the time, how did the anglo-saxon
term merge with the judaic-christian tradition?

Telmo.

> Brent
> “People are more unwilling to give up the word ‘God’ than to give up the
> idea for which the word has hitherto stood”
>     --- Bertrand Russell
>
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