On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>
wrote:

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> If we look back in scientific history, there always seems to be
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> something fundamental that humanity is blind to. The real scale of the
> ​ ​
> universe in space and time, the non-specialness of our solar system,
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> evolution, the big bang, also relativity, quantum mechanics, etc.
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> I find it a bit too convenient to believe that this trend stopped
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> here. That we now have it all mostly figured out, precisely at our
> ​ ​
> moment in history.


​Who claims we have? As of today we have no idea what 96% of the universe
is made of,

​Dark Matter and Dark Energy remain complete mysteries. ​


> ​> ​
> Especially when there are huge mysteries remaining,
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> notably "what is consciousness?".
>

​I don't consider the study of consciousness to be very fruitful, it's
produced nothing worthwhile for centuries and I see no reason why that is
going to change. The study of intelligence, now that's important!

>
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> I am not asking you to accept anything harder to believe than that
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> there are fundamental things that we do not know.


​Only a fool would disagree with that, but it's religious believers who
claim to have all the answers. I don't quite understand why an omnipotent
being would "want" anything, He should already have it.  Nevertheless the
religious say God does want certain things and they know exactly precisely
what they are and they insist on telling us about it; and they also insist
God can't get what He wants on His own, we have to help the poor fellow
achieve His aims.

>
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> This is the problem I have with militant atheists:


​It can't be much of a problem because militant atheists are so rare. In
the USA there are 535 members of congress, most members of that body are
militant christians but not one of them is a militant atheist, although
before 2012 there was one apologetic atheist.

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> their inability to
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> consider certain ideas


​I've certainly considered it, I've had 13 years of formal religious
instruction, kindergarten through High School, more than enough I think to
be entitled to form an opinion on the subject.


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> without trying to fit the opponent into a box
>

​And I feel confident in putting Christian and Islamic theology into the
imbecile box, and Bruno's ​
 invisible amoral mindless metaphorical form of arithmetic
​ into the silly box.​ I can't prove God doesn't exist but I can prove God
is silly.

John K Clark


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