On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Dark Matter and Dark Energy remain complete mysteries. > >
> > As far as I can tell, what we have is a falsification of current > theories. They appear to be good enough approximations for many > things, but then they fail at predicting the expansion rate of the > universe right? Maybe it's dark matter, maybe it's something else, They are 2 separate mysteries. Dark Matter is a mysterious something that makes up 28% of the universe and holds galaxies and clusters of galaxies together. Dark Energy is a even more mysterious something that makes up 69% of everything and causes the expansion of the entire universe to accelerate. And about 4% of the universe is made of the sort of normal matter and energy that until about 20 years ago was the only type we thought existed. There is a straightforward extension of General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics that explains Dark Energy, however it gives a figure that is 10^120 too large, it's been called the worse mismatch between theory and observation in the entire history of science. I think it's fair to say we really don't have a clue about Dark Energy, and Dark Matter is almost as confusing. > > If science failed so far at explaining something, then it doesn't > > matter? Science has an explanation for consciousness that works beautifully, consciousness is the way information feels when it is being processed intelligently. What science doesn't yet have is a complete theory explaining how to produce intelligence, but enormous progress has been made in just the last few years. > >> > >> The study of intelligence, now that's important! > > > > > That is a statement of faith. Gizmo worshiping. At least 3 times a week for the last 5 years somebody on this list has accused me of being religious, apparently in the hope that I'll burst into tears and cry myself to sleep. It's not going to happen, > > > Yes, it's important in > > a sense. I too am interested in having medical breakthroughs, freedom > > from labour and all the nice things that AI can bring. It's important even if you're only interested in philosophical problems, such as why did Evolution bother to make conscious animals at all. > > > > > I don't quite understand why an omnipotent being > > would "want" anything, He should already have it. Nevertheless the > > religious say God does want certain things and they know exactly precisely > > what they are and they insist on telling us about it; and they also insist > > God can't get what He wants on His own, we have to help the poor fellow > > achieve His aims. > > > > You are describing Abrahamic religions. I don't believe in them either. > I don't think the Hindu religion is significantly less stupid. There are some forms of Buddhism and Taoism that aren't stupid but they aren't religions, they don't say anything about God, don't say faith is a virtue, and don't even claim they are revealing something new about the world, instead they are doing something much more modest, they are giving personal advice; they are saying this is a way to be happy. Not the only way, maybe not the best way, just a way. > > I think you are not interested in what Bruno has to say. There's > nothing wrong with that, but it's just a personal preference of yours. > Well yes, but how could not being interested in something not be a personal preference. John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
