On 22 Apr 2017, at 06:10, Brent Meeker wrote:



On 4/21/2017 1:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

But computations does not need matter, no more than the number 2 needs two bottles of milk to make sense.

The number 2 needs two instances of SOMETHING to make sense.

Yes, for example two unities.

Your point would be granted if 2 needs two instances of primary pieces of matter, but that would beg the question.

There are no evidence for primary matter. If the logic X1* would differ significantly from the logic of the observable quanta or sensible qualia, *that* would be an evidence for some primary matter hypothesis. But today, we have not yet found such evidences. Much more work needs to be done. Both computationalism and QM give until now evidences that there is no "scientifically meaningful" notion or primary matter.

Bruno




Brent

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