On 5/7/2017 7:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 06 May 2017, at 21:59, David Nyman wrote:
On 6 May 2017 8:08 p.m., "Brent Meeker" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 5/6/2017 1:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Exactly why I used arithmetic as the example.
Arithmetic, according to your theory of
consciousness, is independent of perception and
physics. Conscious thoughts, beliefs are
entailed by arithmetic and so should be
independent of tequila.
That does not follow. Even Robinso Arithmetic can
prove that a machine drinking some amount of tequila
will prove anything.
That would be impressive. Is this proof published?
It is trivial. RA computes all states reaction in all
computational histories. RA is a universal dovetailer, to be
short. In the simulation of tequila + brain, people get drunk.
That's what I was afraid of. Your theory successfully predicts
it because it predicts "everything", including people drink
tequila and don't get drunk.
Yes, but the key is the measure, isn't it. Everett also predicts that
everything consistent with QM happens. Somehow this leads to a
probabilistic account of what to expect. We know the math but we
don't know the reason. You're no doubt bored with my banging on about
Hoyle, but I must say that his is so far the only metaphor that has
ever conveyed to me how something could be both certain and uncertain
depending on one's point of view. So I think it's far too tricksy to
say that comp predicts everything (or Everett, or eternal inflation
for that matter). The key is the measure and how that measure
discriminates between the typical, the unusual, and the downright
weird. Open problem, sure, but hardly an empty or pointless one.
Also, mechanism is the only reasonable theory, as far as I know, which
predicts the qualia of being drunk under tequila.
So where is this prediction published? How does it show the qualia is
different when drinking orange juice?
Brent
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