On 8/09/2017 5:51 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Sep 2017, at 09:08, Bruce Kellett wrote:

I think Brent's point, with which I agree BTW, is that an observer can only be defined in relation to an external world -- consciousness requires a world to be conscious of!

Why? That seems magical thinking (in the frame of Digital Mechanism). You should explain what an external world is, and how it select the "real" computations. Are you sure we don't need blessed water?

Sarcasm is a poor substitute for an argument......

The external world is that which you are conscious of. And it does not have to select the "real" computations, they select themselves: the "real" computations are the ones that are conscious. Just as the relevent bitstrings in the plenum are the ones that are conscious -- no one has to search through the pile to find them.

Bruce

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