On 10/09/2017 6:17 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Sep 2017, at 01:23, Russell Standish wrote:
You have to keep in mind that my theory is a model - the bitstrings
are necessary, but not necessarily sufficient. They represent the data
interpreted by an observer. Something like a universal dovetailer
gives us the bitstrings by virtue of the Washington-Moscow thought
experiment.
?
The iterated self-duplication gives all bitstrings.
The universal dovetailer, or the sigma_1 completeness, by the non
triviality of what is a universal machine/number and what they can
prove and bet on, we better hope not getting all bitstrings, which
with mechanism with white noise.
I think Russell is right in that the dovetailer necessarily gives all
possible bitstrings. This is Russell's Plenitude - the 'Nothing' since
all possible bitstrings convey no information. It is white noise from
the outside (if there were any such thing as an 'outside'), but the only
strings that are relevant to our consciousness are the ones that are
conscious, and these self-select. Some of the others might give rise to
completely different worlds, with completely different types of
consciousness, but we do not necessarily interact with those (there
might not be a white rabbit problem). As I see it, the conscious strings
themselves contain all the information necessary to construct a world --
they are self-contained time capsules, or something of that sort. It is
not a consciousness in isolation, but an embodied consciousness. No
other type of bitstring is conscious in the necessary sense.
I like Russell's idea that the map-territory distinction breaks down if
the description (map) is completely detailed so that the territory does
not contain any additional information. The the map becomes the
territory, and the distinction is a distinction without a difference. So
the descriptions contained in the infiinitude of bitstrings constitute
the actual reality of consciousness and the world.
As I said a while back, this might be the case, and we have recovered
both consciousness and the world, but we have 'explained' neither: an
unfortunate feature of theories that contain everything (eveythingism!).
Bruce
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