On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 8:01:16 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Sep 2017, at 13:22, ronaldheld wrote: > > This should cause some discussion. Maybe belongs in the "is math real" > thread, but that one is large?? > Ronald > > > What is your opinion? > > The author believes that PI does not existed 100,000 years ago. > > It looks like he believes that 100,000 existed 100,000 years ago, making > hard for me to understand why PI would not exist, and in which sense, as PI > is not a function of time. > > Then the author seems to believe in a primary physical universe, and does > not seem aware that this is an assumption too, and indeed arguably much > stronger than assuming arithmetic. > > The main problem is that the author does not put its assumption on the > table, and take for granted that existence is physical existence. That does > not make sense with mechanism (probably), but to be franc, I am not sure > this makes sense even without mechanism. He confuses also mathematical > theory and mathematical reality, it seems. > > What do *you* think? What would be your primary assumption? > > My feeling is that it is a waste of time to guess what exists or not > before saying what we are willing to assume as primitively true, or what is > the metaphysical background accepted. > > Bruno > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > <1709.03087.pdf> > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > Well, his use of 100000 years does not fit with some little things he > states. I am not the best person to comment, one because we should get > more opinions. AFAIK his view is that mathematics (applied) does not fit > the "real world" as well as others have claimed. he also assumes that > lesser animals cannot do any math besides counting low integers. > Ronald
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