On 10/26/2017 7:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 25 Oct 2017, at 21:15, Brent Meeker wrote:
On 10/25/2017 5:37 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I am not entirely sure of this. I think that in the long term, the
free-market can work, both for preserving resource and happiness.
We might have a different feelings due to the fact that it does not
seem to have work with us, but the reason is that we don't have a
free-market, given that we have the prohibition laws. Even at the
start, Henri Ford, who made his 300 first Ford car in Hemp, and
using Hemp, defended the Hemp for building car by saying that it is
a renewable resource, and that it would not perturb the current
concentration of 0_2, C0_2. If the Market would have been free, most
people would have used Hemp (which was the petrol before petrol)
instead of petrol.
Nonsense. Hemp was grown for rope. It was never a fuel.
Rudolph Diesel and Henri Ford seems to have conceived and planned to
build their engine with hemp and vegetable source of oil. Googling on
I don't find real refutation of this. Of course they did not succeed.
Henry Ford built a car whose body panels were made from plant
cellulose, mostly from soybeans but including 10% hemp. But it was
never shown to be economically viable or durable enough to replace
steel. Notice that when GM built plastic bodied cars, the Corvette,
Saturn, Fiero...they did not make the plastic from soybeans or hemp
and the cars have not aged well. The plastic hardens and cracks.
Because they did not make bio-plastic indeed. To be sure, we don't
know the life-time of bio-plastic either, given that all such project
have been impeached by prohibition.
To sell something as toxic and disgusting as petrol, you *need* to
abolish the free market, which is what happened. After that you do
lose happiness, and you do destroy basically everything quickly,
hopefully in a reversible way.
Free-market is like evolution. It does not see anything in the long
term, but can still lead to building things which can see in a
longer and longer terms.
Bruno
I'm afraid you've become a crank on this point...as though marijuana
the basis and measure of world capitalism.
No, only a witnessing of the inexistence of capitalism or what we call
in Europe liberalism, that is simply the non-existence of a free market.
How could we have a a free-market if we tolerate that a government
decide what can and cannot be consumed? That makes no sense at all.
Without legal market, you only create the criminal market, and this
can only augment the consumption, and the possible dangers, of the
product.
A legal market can be a regulated market. A criminal market is by
definition unregulated. There is no inspection, no labeling
requirements, no enforcement of contracts, no penalty for fraud,... So
you should be happy that marijuana is available in a criminal market
instead of a legal one where the government would interfere.
Prohibition is only that: to prevent the market to be controlled by
the actual need of the people. It benefits only to criminals, and
partially to their hostages.
Is that why the emperor tried to prohibit the opium trade in China?
A "drug" is only a medication which can become dangerous when
prohibited. Have you heard a street dealer telling his "client" to
respect the posology? Or asking for a medical prescription?
The vocation of a drug is to reduce the harm, but prohibition entails
the complete opposite. Even legal medication becomes dangerous in time
of prohibition, because the goal is no more to cure and helps people,
but to maximize benefits. Money, the wonderful mean, is transformed
into a senseless goal.
Then you should be happy to buy your medicines from the street stalls in
Thailand and Somolia.
I am a classical thinker. I think that once we tolerate one lie, we
quickly get many lies, if not all.
That's the kind ideological thinking that leads to totalitarianism -
every imperfection must be eliminated or nothing will work.
Brent
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