On 11/15/2017 2:40 PM, [email protected] wrote:


On Wednesday, November 15, 2017 at 2:37:02 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:



    On 11/15/2017 12:06 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
    >
    > But if it tunnels into existence at t=0, how can it be infinite in
    > extent? I find that egregiously hard to imagine, plus the fact that
    > one has to use QM to explain the tunneling, and that, ipso facto,
    > seems to imply it's infinitesimally small in spatial extent t=0 at

    A limitation of imagination.  Nothing about tunneling assumes a size.

    Brent


Agreed. My imagination is not the be-all, or end-all of anything. But isn't it claimed that Einstein's field equations breakdown earlier than Planck time, and this is where QM must be invoked, when the universe is presumably very small in spatial extent?

The part of the universe visible to us now (and any other finite patch) was very small.

Alternatively, doesn't tunneling assume QM, which is a theory about the micro world. As I recall the concept is limited to QM. AG

No.  It's  theory about the energy barrier between states.  It can be states of anything.

Brent

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